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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 02:55 PM
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The font naysayers have ignored the evidence, Killian's signature
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 02:55 PM by Walt Starr
Yep, it's corroborative and Killian signed it. See it for yourself here:

The document in question:



A second CBS released document with a signature:



From Bush's discharge request:



Bush's 1971 Evaluation:



and finally, Bush's 1972 evaluation:



So, if indeed the first document was forged (the one brought into doubt over the typeface and superscript), Killian forged it himself and MUST have done it prior to his death in 1984. That EVIL Jerry Killian positioned his documents to come out and harm George W. Bush's chances for re-election TWO DECADES AGO OR MORE!
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 02:57 PM
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1. they don't want to hear it Walt, they're looking for doom and gloom
and have a few too many of these in their wardrobe :tinfoilhat:

by the way, don't know if i ever thanked you, but great work on the story about * wearing a medal he didn't earn.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:05 PM
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12. We have a lot of "fake DU'ers"
on the board....they start and perpetuate the doom and gloom.....they'll be gone come November. I always look at the profiles. If they have none and are low posters....I do not give too much credit to their posts. I realize there are good "new DU'ers" but they will have to show their merit .....thats the truth.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 02:57 PM
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2. That bastard always did have it in for Goerge
Imagine, actually insisting that George go to a common Dr. for a physical!
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 02:57 PM
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3. can we just start our own media?
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 02:59 PM
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4. Sure, I've got $100 to invest
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:00 PM
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7. Wouldn't it be nice
If Soros would be willing to drop a few (okay, many many) millions towards that effort?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:11 PM
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19. You're soaking in it, sniffa n/t
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 02:59 PM
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5. You beat me
I just posted virtually the same thing...

And another thing...what kind of idiot forger would use a modern computer? No one, that's who. Anyone with a brain (leaves most rwers out, of course) would be careful to type the things on a typewriter of the time.

So, what we would have here is a forger smart enough to forge Killian's signature but stupid enough to use a modern computer.

Come on, folks!
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:00 PM
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6. I don't get the worry about the superscript.
I already seen another doc from the same time period that shows the superscript as well, and that document has been around for months.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:00 PM
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8. Yeah, because BUSH RELEASED THAT DOC IN 2000!
Jeez Louise, some of these folks cannot be reasoined with!
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:03 PM
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9. Well, I guess that proves Bush forged his service record in 2000.
Amazing that Bush was stupid enough to use a computer to forge his own service record.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:04 PM
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10. should have just looked at signature from the beginning
instead of all this font stuff
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:05 PM
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11. Wow! Those tricky bushco forgers really are good!
I wonder what other signatures they have mastered.





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allemand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:44 PM
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13. Does CBS have the originals? Or were they able to check the originals?
In that case you are right. If they had only access to copies, then the signature doesn't prove much.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:49 PM
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14. I don't get it
If anything, you've just convinced me the documents were forged.

The upward stroke of the K in the first one has a loop at the end that none of the others has...
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:52 PM
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15. Right.....
Handwriting analysts looked at the first and second and authenticated them for CBS.

So, if you thought the second was real, you must think the first was also real.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:59 PM
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16. I don't understand
The first one looks different from all the rest. Why is it inconceivable that one of the CBS docs was forged and the other is real?
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:08 PM
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17. Actually
Now that I've looked a bit more they all look a little different. The K on the first, second, and fourth look like they were made differently from the third and fifth one. I'm not a handwriting expert so I'll just let it go and see what real experts say...
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:09 PM
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18. The real experts will examine various points
Like, the "J" beginning at the same point (as is the case with all five).
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charliebrown Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 02:02 AM
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20. I agree Nederland.
They all look different to me also, but I am just a comic strip idiot. I will leave it to the experts...Here snoopy snoopy...hee hee!
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 02:08 AM
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21. Media has had two experts cancel each other .
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