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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:52 PM
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Kerry offered aid and comfort?
I'm getting e-mails about Kerry offering aid and comfort to the enemy by meeting with the North Vietnamese while still in the Naval Reserve.

What really happened with this? I can't seem to find anything on the web but right wingie hysteria about this issue.

Thanks!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:53 PM
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1. OMG.....enough already
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:54 PM
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2. I suggest Free Republic
they have all this bullshit ready for you to eat up. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/browse
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:54 PM
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3. Met some diplomats in Paris for peace talks.
If that's a crime then many great Americans in history are guilty of it.

Met on his own behalf with some other people on their own behalf, that is. Aid and comfort has to be a little more, you know, substantial.
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:58 PM
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8. In other words...
..I shouldn't ask about touchy subjects? I asked for info. I don't need comments. Searches here came up fairly empty.

From what I can tell, Kerry tried to meet with several leaders in an attempt to end the war. My response to the e-mails was that this was an admirable goal. I just need details in order to know what I'm talking about.

Comments aside, does anybody have any good links?
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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:57 PM
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4. He was offering aid and comfort to our POW's--trying to get them home ASAP
Kerry, the Congressional Record, 1971

The Chairman: Do you support or do you have any particular views about any one of them you wish to give the committee?

Mr. Kerry: My feeling, Senator, is undoubtedly this Congress, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but I do not believe that this Congress will, in fact, end the war as we would like to, which is immediately and unilaterally and, therefore, if I were to speak I would say we would set a date and the date obviously would be the earliest possible date. But I would like to say, in answering that, that I do not believe it is necessary to stall any longer. I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned. (Comment: The same POW's who were so "devastated" by this attempt to get them freed sooner rather than later)

I think this negates very clearly the argument of the President that we have to maintain a presence in Vietnam, to use as a negotiating block for the return of those prisoners. The setting of a date will accomplish that...
Mr. Kerry: Senator, if I may interject, I think that what we are trying to say is we do have a method. We believe we do have a plan, and that plan is that if this body were by some means either to permit a special referendum in this country so that the country itself might decide and therefore avoid this recrimination which people constantly refer to or if they couldn't do that, at least do it through immediate legislation which would state there would be an immediate cease-fire and we would be willing to undertake negotiations for a coalition government. But at the present moment that is not going to happen, so we are talking about men continuing to die for nothing and I think there is a tremendous moral question here which the Congress of the United States is ignoring.

The Chairman: The congress cannot directly under our system negotiate a cease-fire or anything of this kind. Under our constitutional system we can advice the President. We have to persuade the President of the urgency of taking this action. Now we have certain ways in which to proceed. We can, of course, express ourselves in a resolution or we can pass an act which directly affects appropriations which is the most concrete positive way the Congress can express itself.

But Congress has no capacity under our system to go out and negotiate a cease-fire. We have to persuade the Executive to do this for the country.

Mr. Kerry: Mr. Chairman, I realize that full well as a student of political science. I realize that we cannot negotiate treaties and I realize that even my visits in Paris, precedents had been set by Senator McCarthy and others, in a sense are on the borderline of private individuals negotiating, et cetera. I understand these things. But what I am saying is that I believe that there is a mood in this country which I know you are aware of and you have been one of the strongest critics of this war for the longest time. But I think if can talk in this legislative body about filibustering for porkbarrell programs, then we should start now to talk about filibustering for the saving of lives and of our country. (Applause.)

And this, Mr. Chairman, is what we are trying to convey.


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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:59 PM
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9. Thanks!
Just what I needed. I appreciate your help.
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DeadHead67 Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:58 PM
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5. I think you hit it square on the head : RIGHT-WING HYSTERIA ! ! !
And they have good reason to be hysterical, considering some of the things that are coming to light about the Pretender in Chief.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:58 PM
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6. According to military law
a person in the service is not allowed to meet or negotiate, or in any way deal with the enemy.

I do not know the title, or numerical designation, but this is what they are screaming about.

The fact that he went to Paris & met with North Vietnamese is what is upsetting them.

Kerry has said he went to Paris as a private citizen; the right is saying he was still in Naval Reserve.

I do not know about the exact details, but that is the accusation.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:58 PM
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7. Wait
I thought Kerry actually fought on Vietnam’s side. In fact, if you review your history better you will find that he actually assassinated President Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy and Dr. King. Mr. Kerry also is responsible for the Space Shuttle blowing up in 1987 and there is no proof that he did not assassinate President Lincoln either.
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