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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:05 PM
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Rather ROCKS! A REAL journalist at work . . .
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:31 PM by mbali
Here's the transcript of Rather's "on the street" interview with CNN:

Rather: The story is true. And the questions raised in the story are serious and legitimate questions.

The questions are: Did Lt. Bush refuse a direct order from a military superior in time of war? That's Question One. Question Two: was he suspended for failure to perform up tothe standards of the U.S. Air Force and the Texas National Guard? That's Number Two.

Three. Did he ever take the physical he was ordered to take by his military superior? Or if he didn't take that physical, why didn't he take that physical?

I want to emphasize that I stand behind my president. We're in a time of war and I stand behind my president. There's no joy in reporting such a story, but my job as a journalist is not to be afraid and when we come up with facts and legitimate questions that are supported by witnesses and documents which we believe to be authentic, to raise those questions no matter how unpleasant they are.

I do want to underscore with you that the White House took their shots at us today. The Bush Cheney campaign took their shots at us. They have not answered the question: did or did not the president obey a direct order from his military superior while he was a lieutenant, was he or was he not suspended for failure to meet performance standard of the Air Force and TANG, if he didn't take the physical, why didn't he take the physical? Also, one of the questions that's out there, where is the efficiency report every officer, particularly a flying officer, is supposed to have a yearly efficiency report. There is no such report for the last year. I emphasize again that there is no joy in asking these questions, but I think these are legitimate questions and I stand by the story.

Q. I wonder how you feel about the whole investigation

Rather: What investigation?

Q. We read that CBS is doing an internal investigation.

Rather: Where did you read that?

Q. Unintelligible

Rather: You should stay away from rumor mills. Where did you read that?

Q. The Washington Post article

Rather: No. They didn't say that in the Washington Post article. I don't want to argue with you. You were asking about a rumor. You know the internet is filled with all kinds of rumors. I like a rumor as much as the next fella. But it's umportant to recognize what's a rumor and what's a fact. Sometimes the rumors are true. In this case they're not. There's no internal investigation. I'm happy in my work, as you can see. I'm proud of our story. I'm proud of CBS News I'm proud of the team I work with and stand with them completely. I appreciate the sources who took risks to authenticate our story. One - there's no internal investigation Two - someone may be shellshocked but it is not I and not anybody at CBS news. And you can tell who's shellshocked by the ferocity of people who are spreading these rumors.

Q. When there's significant evidence that those documents may have been forged or created at a later date, do you think there's any requirement or are you considering any kind of apology or retraction"?

Rather: Number One. I know that this story is true. I believe the witnesses and documents are authentic. We wouldn't have gone to air if they had not been. There isn't going to be an apology . . . hasn't even been discussed, nor should there be.

I want to make clear to you this story is true. And more important questions than how we got the story which is where those who don't like the story would like to put the emphasis. The more important question is what are the answers to the questions raised in the story.


Wow!

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Stocat Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:07 PM
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1. Link?
Link?
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:11 PM
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12. No link - transcribed it myself
thanks to TIVO
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Stocat Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:17 PM
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20. Thanks for the hard work then! n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:18 PM
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22. Thank you for this transcription!
Go Dan Rather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:yourock:
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:07 PM
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2. Now THERE'S a guy I want to have a beer with! (n/t)
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:08 PM
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3. Hell yeah!
Props to Dan Rather!:bounce: :toast: :bounce:
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:09 PM
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4. If only the rest of the media were like this
Unfortunately, they're not even close.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:09 PM
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5. Rather is not only a real journalist, he is also a real Texan...
questioning the lies of a phony dimestore cowboy.

Give 'em hell, Dan
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:09 PM
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6. This makes up for a lot of stuff by CBS
like their refusal to broadcast a documentary on the Reagans, etc. If they were being good GOP tools earlier this year, they seem to have changed a bit.

Suggest we call CBS and thank them!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:10 PM
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11. e-mail
CBS Evening News -- evening@cbsnews.com
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:09 PM
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7. "Wow" is right.
I guess Rather knows what the truth is up against now. Let's hope this keeps him and the folks who work with him energized. We (and the truth) need him!
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:14 PM
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16. A couple of things jumped out at me . . .
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:16 PM by mbali
"There's no joy in reporting such a story, but my job as a journalist is not to be afraid."

"I appreciate the sources who took risks to authenticate our story."


Is he implying that he and the sources have been threatened?
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duhneece Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:55 PM
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44. ooooh..good call nt
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:09 PM
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8. rather stood up tothe spin machine... and facts revealed today will soon
put him on the offensive...screw you CNN
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:09 PM
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9. Who's The Dickhead Asking the Questions?
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:11 PM by Beetwasher
Q. I wonder how you feel about the whole investigation

Rather: What investigation?

Q. We read that CBS is doing an internal invest

Rather: Where did you read that?

Q. Unintelligible

Rather: You should stay away from rumor mills. Where did you read that?

Q. The Washington Post article

Rather: No. They didn't say that in the Washington Post article.

--snip--

Notice the disgusting assumption in the question about the investigation? Who's this prick getting the question's from, where are HIS orders coming from at CNN? Fucking scum. The "investigation" smear is a goddamn lie, total bullshit lie being propogated by CNN.

Rather is about to be smeared and attacked like never before. I'm sure he knows what he's in for, and it's going to be ugly. He's a VERY brave man.
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:18 PM
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21. The first and last question were asked by men - the se questions
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:19 PM by mbali
were asked by a female who sounded like a Valley Girl wannabe - probably someone next in line to be a CNN anchor.

What was really funny was the look on Rather's face as he messed with her - sort of a bemused "you are so damned stupid and I know it and am going to educate you a little about journalism, you silly little girl" look on his face."

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:20 PM
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24. Some Lackey Was Trotted Out To Insult Dan Rather W/ This Filth
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:22 PM by Beetwasher
The "unintelligible" response was because the little piece of spittle was dumbfounded for a moment about telling the truth about the source, which is, there IS no source except she(?) was TOLD to ask that question from her traitorous, scumbag bosses who are trying to spread their fucking vile filth.
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:24 PM
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30. Actually, it sounded like she said "Drudge Report," but it really was
hard to tell. The look on Rather's face was priceless - he looked so amused and patronizing as he lectured her about learning the difference between rumor and news.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:27 PM
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31. The GALL To Source Drudge to DAN RATHER!!!! Holy Cow!
That's friggin' crazy...
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:29 PM
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33. Isn't that a hoot?
I'll bet she limped back into the newsroom. . .
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:10 PM
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10. I love his books, "The Camera Never Blinks," etc.
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:10 PM by swag
They're earnest and corny, true, but filled with ripping stories.
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:11 PM
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13. Quick, someone get a message to Rather
that, in addition to defending the story on CBS Evening News tonight, he should also scold the other media pundits for forgetting the meaning of investigative journalism. Oh, what a great moment that would be!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:12 PM
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14. That is reassuring. Thank you for providing that.
He is absolutely right, that the questions the media should be asking are about Bush's service. I want to see the forgery charges debunked once and for all.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:12 PM
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15. Hey, Dan, this will free you up for the BIG story
As in, "Bush's whole life is revealed to be a forgery."
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:15 PM
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17. deleted
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:17 PM by dennis4868
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:16 PM
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18. deleted....
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:17 PM by dennis4868
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:16 PM
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19. i dont like this.....
Rather: "I want to emphasize that I stand behind my president. We're in a time of war and I stand behind my president."

We are at war because the dickhead AWOL brat lied to us into war Mr. Rather...wish you would have investigated that....so many lives have been lost because you and your other friends in the emdia gave the WH a free ride on this....
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:21 PM
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25. He had to say it to pre-empt the sure charges that he's anti-Bush,
anti-war, liberal enemy of the state.

Give him a break. He has gone further out on a limb than any other journalist has on this story. I'm just glad he's out there telling other journalists what real journalists should be doing on this.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:20 PM
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23. Holy sh*t!!!
"There's no internal investigation. I'm happy in my work, as you can see. I'm proud of our story. I'm proud of CBS News I'm proud of the team I work with and stand with them completely. I appreciate the sources who took risks to authenticate our story. One - there's no internal invest. Two - someone may be shellshocked but it is not I and not anybody at CBS news. And you can tell who's shellshocked by the ferocity of people who are spreading these rumors.

Mr. Rather...I'm proud of you too. :thumbsup:
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:23 PM
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28. Hey!
Rather rocks! COOL!

And I freelance at CBS from time to time and I will be there tomorrow, although I have nothing to do with Rather and have never even met him. But I can't wait to hear the buzz!

On the weekends a diehard right winger usually is there on staff, and somehow or other the guy usually ends up on a rant about liberals or Clinton or something... I SO can't wait to bust his balls about this one.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:28 PM
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32. On the weekends a diehard right winger usually is there on staff,
"and somehow or other the guy usually ends up on a rant about liberals or Clinton or something... I SO can't wait to bust his balls about this one."

Wear a wire! We wanna hear too! :toast:
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:35 PM
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36. We don't work in the newsroom itself, but
we work more on the graphics end of things but the newsroom is down the hall so people mingle, should be interesting to say the least. On the weekends there isn't a whole big crew on so they call in freelancers often. It's a cool place to work. And even though I'm only in the graphics area I can tell you the producers are VERY concerned with accuracy and they have their own researcher even on weekends just for us in graphics... to check the spelling of a word or an exact location on a map (like an atlas isn't enough).

Yeah I can't wait to hear what the RW has to say about it. He usually comes out with the most farfetched conspiracy theories imaginable but it's really a lot of fun to watch him get worked up...

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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:42 PM
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43. Wait until his mouth is full of coffee and aimed away from you...
Then innocently say "Anything new on that whole AWOL thing today?" :evilgrin:
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:29 AM
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50. Aw, dammit.
Turns out the freeper I was looking to have fun with is the guy I was called in to cover for today!

Damn!

Probably home self-medicating.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:22 PM
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26. This is a doozy of a question-
"When there's significant evidence that those documents may have been forged or created at a later date, do you think there's any requirement or are you considering any kind of apology or retraction"?"

A bit presumptuous of CNN to state 'when there's evidence' I think....or do they know something they aren't sharing with Rather and the American public?
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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:23 PM
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29. Hey, they read the internet too!
I'm beginning to think that's all CNN does, parrot the net.
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:23 PM
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27. "CBS on the Hot Seat" MSNBC tagline for their story
Funny - I thought it was BUSH on the hotseat, not the news outlet that is exposing him.

Amazing how the media will turn on its own whenever anyone steps out of line and speaks truth to power, isn't it?
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:35 PM
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35. I wonder if Woodward & Bernstein had days like this...
It's a thankless job, explaining that the emperor has no clothes.
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:33 PM
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34. HERE IS THE "INSIDE SKINNY" ON WHAT IS GOING ON-GOING DOWN!
Dan Rather is a Texas native. He was born and raised outside Houston and then after completing college, cut his television journalist teeth at a National network station in Houston.

He took on the Bush Family "Texas Mafia"(BFTM) several times in the early 70's, and this current situation is more of the "blood feud" between he and H.W. Bush. Personally, I'm not a Dan Rather fan, BUT Dan is very solid, a real pro, first-class credibility (unlike those flake GOP-ops reporters at Fox), and will NOT back down from a deal that he knows he is right. I/we have never seen Dan do it once in 35 years!

The Bush Family Texas Mafia (BFTM) tries to destroy anyone that takes them on, hell just look at their damn track record. You all know this!

More importantly, we will make some phone calls on this deal, and in particular if CBS “60 Minutes” has something cooking to bag the BFTM on several matters we are aware. We keep hearing "little things" on this subject, plus the Washington Post has been digging on this next deal for over a year.

It has to do with the Bush Family corruption, documents the Fed accidentally discovered at Enron (which was a Bush Family business "front operation"), and Bush's "War Dog" House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (Houston) being under a massive Texas criminal grand jury investigation, for fraud, bribery, extortion, money laundering, and criminal abuse of his political office.

The big kicker is Bob “$200,000 donor to O’Neill’s SBVT” Perry (Houston) is involved with DeLay in his criminal enterprise and we mean BIG TIME! Also eleven (11) other BFTM members are involved, in varying degree, including the Texas Governor and other ranking elected State officials, and many of them could go to jail over this deal.

The BFTM is doing everything possible to keep the lid on it, and also get W elected. BFTM needs W elected so he can do Presidential Pardons for BFTM Enron buddies, (Ken Lay), DeLay, Perry, and others that get convicted and sent to prison over this massive criminal enterprise.

That in a nutshell is what’s going on with all the Bush-Cheney-GOP totally outright fraud in their campaign. They don’t have a platform to run on, so the con and fraud game is all they got! They are going nuts because Rather stuck his nose in it. If you recall Dan Rather has stayed pretty neutral in his reporting on the O’Neill-SBVT fraud scam. We know, what I just delineated, because we are well connected Republicans, have several influential Houstonians in our “Beat Bush” cartel, along with two Houston criminal attorney’s - NKR

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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:35 PM
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37. I got a reply to the e-mail I sent!
I sent a support e-mail to Dan Rather & the CBS Evening News earlier today. Here's the reply they just sent me. Everybody, please let them know how we feel because apparently they've been getting hit all day with negative mail!


Thank you for taking the time to write. Your support is appreciated. As you can imagine, we've been inundated with negative emails. It's refreshing to hear from a viewer such as yourself. We strive for the highest level of journalistic integrity and will continue to do so, no matter what the cost. A free society demands free, unmuzzled media expression.
Regina,
CBS Evening News


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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 06:01 PM
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46. Great Reply! - Free Rep Network Nazi's have been hitting CBS for days!
It should be noted that CBS is owned by Viacom. 70-75% of campaign donations by Viacom (VIA) executives and its political action committee, have gone to the Democratic Party and its candidates.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 06:10 PM
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48. what's the email address?
n/t
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phish420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:37 PM
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38. Im recording this from CBS News right Now!!
Ill have it up on my site tonight!
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phish420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:37 PM
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39. They said the superscript typwriter has been around since 1932 nt
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phish420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:42 PM
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42. Got it recorded
a guy that worked with the author of the papers just said that he is convinced that they are authentic, and if they are, it shows the deepest level of corruption, that Bush was given special favors that fall under corruption. Good stuff! Ill have it on my site as soon as I can get it encoded and uploaded!!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:38 PM
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40. and spanking cnn to boot...
hey, conservative news network -- your pants are down!

cnn knew that cbs was standing behind the story -- and cnn knew that the evidence attacking the story were spurious at best -- there were so many other ways to go at these qustions -- but instead cnn choose to try to give the back of it's hand to rather -- and he gave it back to them.
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:38 PM
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41. Rather's Tearing Apart the "Forgery" Bullshit
Awesome! Clear, concise, researched, detailed, focused, informative, and very convincing.
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phish420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 06:00 PM
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45. VIDEO of this NOW UP on my site
http://bushlies2.us
will autoplay on the main page.
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 06:03 PM
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47. Nice Thanks!
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 06:14 PM
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49. Thanks!!
Great work... got it bookmarked.
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