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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:25 PM
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Has the CBS evening news aired on the East coast yet?
If so, what did Rather say?
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:25 PM
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1. Not yet. 6:30
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shawmut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:25 PM
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2. 5 minutes n/t
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:26 PM
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3. In four minutes!
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:30 PM
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4. It's on now!
What will he say?
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:31 PM
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5. I can't see it. The local
news is running over and is still on.
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:31 PM
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6. They're opening with Ivan...
...so you should still be able to see the full document story.
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:44 PM
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44. are you in tallahassee? that happened here, too? hummm
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:31 PM
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7. On now in the midwest
Leading with the hurricane in Jamaica story.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:33 PM
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8. It's still not on.
This is very unusual.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:35 PM
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11. Hell, I'd show it in the middle or the end
Keep people glued to the set.

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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:33 PM
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9. talking about IVAN first
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:34 PM
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10. He's losing his voice
Must have done a lot of talking today.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:36 PM
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15. or a shouting match w/ ????
he's really suffering from laryngitis it seems.

on now.
dp
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:35 PM
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12. Ok
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:35 PM by ellie
They are joining it in progress. They are talking about Ivan. What a bunch of crap.

Here it is!

On edit: Ivan isn't crap but the pre-empting of the national news.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:35 PM
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13. talking about it now
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:36 PM
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16. He's listing off all the important questions that need to be asked
He sounds hoarse too, by the way. He's pointing out the partisan political attacks.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:36 PM
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17. please give details to those of us still cubebound
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:35 PM
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14. He's on it now
Laying out the questions brought up in the report first, ie., about Bush's service.
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:37 PM
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18. Other Bush records released by the WH show superscipt
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:38 PM
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23. that's the stuff
I still don't know what the fuck a superscript is though.
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:42 PM
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35. heh heh
Superscript, you know like "nd" on "2nd" where the "nd" is higher than the 2.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:37 PM
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19. script available since 1931 n/t
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:39 PM
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27. Marcel Matley handwriting analyst
says the sigs look authentic, CBS not in doubt already.

this is hard hitting folks.
dp
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:37 PM
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20. DAN IS KICKING CHIMPY/RIGHT WING ASS!!!!!!
Love how he started out with those unanswered questions.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:42 PM
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36. and ended with the WH response...
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:44 PM by dweller
uh....."so far there isn't one"

bam!
dp
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:37 PM
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21. Some people,
including political operatives ... allege that the documents are fake. The focus is on the superscript th. Owners of the typeface Times Roman say the font has been available since 1931.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:38 PM
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22. talking about how things degrade
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:38 PM by Cush
when they are copied and faxed over and over
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:38 PM
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24. Talking now about authenticity of the Killian signature
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:39 PM by scmirage
Says Nat'l Guard verged on outright corruption in who got in and who didn't
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:38 PM
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25. They have a handwriting
analyst on and had this person look at the documents before CBS aired the 60 Minutes piece. The signatures are the most compelling. The handwriting analyst said, "We seek the truth."

Go Dan!
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:39 PM
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26. CBS to righty losers............F**K OFF
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:39 PM
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28. Maker of typeface states it's been available since the 30's
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:39 PM by htuttle
The 'th' can be found in other documents from same time. Document analyst Marcel Matley states signatures definitely from same person, and states they are authentic.

Matley also on answering allegations about forgeries, stating he knew there would be a lot of backlash, so he made double sure (paraphrasing).

more ongoing...
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:40 PM
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29. Strong is
standing by what he said, that the documents are consistent with how Killian was. It is the information in the documents that are the most compelling.
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:40 PM
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30. Lt Bush - Lt Bush - Lt Bush... I like the ring of that!
Can we demote him from President Bush to Lieutenant Bush?

Glenda
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:41 PM
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32. Yeah! Let's start referring to him as Lt. Bush..lol
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:48 PM
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49. Demote him to Lt. and have him serve out the rest of his committment...
IN IRAQ!!!!

Poetic justice, anyone?
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nolajazz Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:59 PM
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54. Great idea!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:41 PM
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31. Nice, now they are talking about the propaganda machine
Not nearly enough on that, though.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:42 PM
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37. Well..this is opening a can of worms....
This is exactly what needed to happen. I bet Rather doesn't let this go until he gets the last word in.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:43 PM
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41. What did he say about the propaganda machine?
I'm psyched he would even bring it up!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:45 PM
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48. Not much more than talking about political operatives in the blogisphere
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:45 PM by htuttle
But it did make it fairly clear that the forgery charges were a coordinated response to the documents.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:44 PM
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45. But they made it clear throughout the report...
that the attack on the documents is political. Very strong report. Rather seems a bit relieved to be doing some actual reporting.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:41 PM
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33. Hey Bush, nice plump one in your ass bud
n/m
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:41 PM
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34. Well done Dan!
If we find other evidence that the documents are fake, then we will let you know.

TAKE THAT REPUKES!
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:42 PM
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38. Y'all please write Dan Rather and express your appreciation
I just got back an answer from a support e-mail I sent earlier--they're apparently being deluged with negative e-mails on this. Let them know they are not alone and that we admire their balls in airing this and responding to the attacks on their credibility!
Here's the addy:
evening@cbsnews.com

here's the e-mail they sent me:

Thank you for taking the time to write. Your support is appreciated. As you can imagine, we've been inundated with negative emails. It's refreshing to hear from a viewer such as yourself. We strive for the highest level of journalistic integrity and will continue to do so, no matter what the cost. A free society demands free, unmuzzled media expression.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:50 PM
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51. DUn..I sent my letter to CBS...hope others will too.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:53 PM
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53. Done! Sent them an email of effusive praise.
Thanks so much for the link!

sw
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 06:00 PM
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55. Done!
I've always trusted Dan Rather and I still do. Thanks!
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liberal_in_GA Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 06:00 PM
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56. I sent them an email earlier...
We should keep encouraging them to be aggressive. I was just listening to NPR's report on this and of course they produced their own "forgery expert" who said the font wasn't "common" at the time. It was really pathetic.

I would MUCH rather see Dan give Bob Graham's allegations some attention next. This AWOL shit won't get us too far.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:42 PM
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39. That was brilliant!
I'm so glad CBS isn't backing down. Good for them!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:42 PM
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40. Here we go...
Those questioning the authenticity of the documents include "partisan political operatives".

Naming the person who analyzed the documents, and showing clips of interview with him. CBS started with photocopies. Talks about the distortions of copying. Robert Strong is standing by the documents, they are "real". Corruption in the Guard. Jim Moore: "No doubt in my mind that this is the true story. White House probably knows that these documents are real" (Why the WH isn't discrediting the documents directly.)

Note: I was typing as fast as I can (not very fast, sorry) as I watched the segment, and tried to hit on a few salient points.)

sw
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:45 PM
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47. It sounds like Rather really blasted the bastards
thanks for the recap
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RhodaGrits Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:43 PM
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42. Finally - a journalist says they have had enough. nt
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:43 PM
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43. Rather calls the FReepers' bid Texas Hold 'Em style!!
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:44 PM by johnfunk
It's the World Series of News Poker!

Rather's implicit message to JimRob, Brent Bozell and Powerline: "I call your superscripted 'th' and I raise it one charge of political corruption in the Texas Air Guard."

I can hear the sound of FReeper heads exploding in the distance!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:44 PM
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46. CBS is standing by the authenticity of the documents.
Lots of explantion why, but that is the bottom line. THEY ARE NOT BACKING DOWN!

sw
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Protected Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:49 PM
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50. Here's some video:
Real Video link

This isn't the report that aired on the CBS Evening News, but it features an interview of Dan Rather talking about the AWOL report.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:53 PM
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52. This is Classic Rove. The REAL story is getting lost. AWOL
Now it's a forgery story. Classic Rove spin.
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phish420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 06:02 PM
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57. VIDEO of this NOW UP on my site
http://bushlies2.us
will autoplay on the main page.

Enjoy and Distribute!
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