Rather has BURIED the claims of forgery

[WilliamPitt]

I will post an article when it comes. But he just buried them. The 'th' thing appeared in other Vietnam-era docs, so it existed. Times Roman has been around since the 1930s. A handwriting analyst has confirmed the signatures.

*And* he re-read the charges in simple, damning sentences.

Accused the people questioning him of being 'partisan political operatives.'

BURIED.

[henslee]

1. FACEPLANT.

[bluestateguy]

2. FINE

Now can we please all talk about the current fucked up war we are in, rather than the fucked up war from 35 years ago?

[Bolo Boffin]

20. How about talking about a President who lied in the Oval Office this year?

Is that current enough for you?

[ender]

98. how about we let this little bomb ....

run its course...

lets not get ADD - lets focus on the goal here...

gosh - why did W refuse a direct order? thats the question.

[Ladyhawk]

108. A-fucking-men! n/t

[rumguy]

3. God Bless Dan Rather

It sounds like he knocked it outta the park.

[calimary]

64. Make sure you send a THANK-YOU note...

[e-mail]

Let them know how grateful you are that SOMEBODY in the media is telling the truth about these awful people in OUR White House!

[Chichiri]

4. It's quite a bit early to ask, but . . .

does anyone have a transcript? I don't get CBS in my apartment. :shrug:

[henslee]

11. Somebody on DU posted the following... I can't vouch for it but

it seems quite good.

Here's the transcript of Rather's "on the street" interview with CNN:

Rather: The story is true. And the questions raised in the story are serious and legitimate questions.

The questions are: Did Lt. Bush refuse a direct order from a military superior in time of war? That's Question One. Question Two: was he suspended for failure to perform up tothe standards of the U.S. Air Force and the Texas National Guard? That's Number Two.

Three. Did he ever take the physical he was ordered to take by his military superior? Or if he didn't take that physical, why didn't he take that physical?

I want to emphasize that I stand behind my president. We're in a time of war and I stand behind my president. There's no joy in reporting such a story, but my job as a journalist is not to be afraid and when we come up with facts and legitimate questions that are supported by witnesses and documents which we believe to be authentic, to raise those questions no matter how unpleasant they are.

I do want to underscore with you that the White House took their shots at us today. The Bush Cheney campaign took their shots at us. They have not answered the question: did or did not the president obey a direct order from his military superior while he was a lieutenant, was he or was he not suspended for failure to meet performance standard of the Air Force and TANG, if he didn't take the physical, why didn't he take the physical? Also, one of the questions that's out there, where is the efficiency report every officer, particularly a flying officer, is supposed to have a yearly efficiency report. There is no such report for the last year. I emphasize again that there is no joy in asking these questions, but I think these are legitimate questions and I stand by the story.

Q. I wonder how you feel about the whole investigation

Rather: What investigation?

Q. We read that CBS is doing an internal invest

Rather: Where did you read that?

Q. Unintelligible

Rather: You should stay away from rumor mills. Where did you read that?

Q. The Washington Post article

Rather: No. They didn't say that in the Washington Post article. I don't want to argue with you. You were asking about a rumor. You know the internet is filled with all kinds of rumors. I like a rumor as much as the next fella. But it's umportant to recognize what's a rumor and what's a fact. Sometimes the rumors are true. In this case they're not. There's no internal investigation. I'm happy in my work, as you can see. I'm proud of our story. I'm proud of CBS News I'm proud of the team I work with and stand with them completely. I appreciate the sources who took risks to authenticate our story. One - there's no internal invest. Two - someone may be shellshocked but it is not I and not anybody at CBS news. And you can tell who's shellshocked by the ferocity of people who are spreading these rumors.

Q. When there's significant evidence that those documents may have been forged or created at a later date, do you think there's any requirement or are you considering any kind of apology or retraction"?

Rather: Number One. I know that this story is true. I believe the witnesses and documents are authentic. We wouldn't have gone to air if they had not been. There isn't going to be an apology . . . hasn't even been discussed, nor should there be.

I want to make clear to you this story is true. And more important questions than how we got the story which is where those who don't like the story would like to put the emphasis. The more important question is what are the answers to the questions raised in the story.

[Chichiri]

16. Thanks, I saw that . . .

I meant the transcript of his story on CBS Evening News. Thanks anyway, though! :)

[blue neen]

41. "And you can tell who's shellshocked by the ferocity of people who

are spreading these rumors." That says it all.

Thanks for telling the truth, Dan.

E-mailing CBS right now.

[Elidor]

89. I almost don't want to know, but - who was the reporter

Doing the interview?

[Insomnicole]

93. Someone who won't be able to sit down for a week...

... after the spanking Dan gave 'em!

[CatWoman]

21. Check here after 8 p.m. eastern

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?channel=eveningnews

[Chichiri]

32. Thanks :) (n/t)

[Massacure]

63. Yes - Be warned, this is 56k unfriendly.

http://bushlies2.us/video/wmv/bush_awol_cbs.wmv

[Beetwasher]

5. One Of The BIGGEST Bitchslaps (sorry) I've EVER SEEN!!

Holy cow!

[henslee]

43. No. Bitchslap might have been the effect but it was way more classier..

He is simply a newsman with integrity trying to get to the bottom of a story and he won't be deterred or intimidated.

Watching the parade of smartly dressed, capped-teeth whores trying to go toe to toe with him, asking him to give up his sources, asking for retractions and apologies makes me puke and laugh at the same time. About all they can do right is cut to a TV poll or Scott Peterson.

[seabeyond]

6. shoot, i missed the first seven minutes

last two were good

[redstateblues]

7. We Have Won The Week- And Go Into Next Week with Big Mo

This puts a big ! on this very good week for Kerry

[Guaranteed]

26. Yup...a great way to lead into the weekend. nt

[newsguyatl]

8. will, that's the EXACT word i was just thinking

fucking BURIED those punks.

today's events and accusations have opened a floodgate.


in other words, it's on now.

[Beetwasher]

13. Headlines MUST READ CHARGES BACKED BY FACT!!

How can they ingore this masterful piece of REAL fucking journalism?!

[BootinUp]

9. I loved the way he stated the qestions

raised by the documents, with large text displayed on the screen simultaneously. BLAM!

[Minimus]

10. Go Dan Go!

Awesome reporting. Now if other would just follow his lead.

[yankeedem]

12. If evidence is produced that definitively marks these documents

as forgeries, we will retract the story. So Far, NO SUCH EVIDENCE EXISTS.

Thanks CBS-

[Minimus]

19. I loved the way the handwriting analyst

stated he knew his findings could hurt his career, but it is necessary to find the truth!!!!

[ThomCat]

14. Damned good.

Now why can't the major news shows show this kind of backbone more often?

[allemand]

So the handwriting analyst had access to the original documents?

That would be enough proof for me.

[Bolo Boffin]

22. No - CBS had copies only. n/t

[allemand]

45. How difficult would it be to get access to the originals?

CBS has copies, so the originals have to be in some file.

[A_Possum]

50. How do you know that?

Did Rather say so?

[allemand]

58. Yes. It's in the video, beginning at 1:42

The documents being analyzed outside CBS "...are far removed from the documents CBS started with which were also photocopies".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x786841

[Joanne98]

75. First generation copies n/t

[iwantmycountryback]

15. I think Kerry will be up in several polls now

This isn't just an issue of service, this is an issue of credibility. (As if we needed more evidence proving Bush's lack of it)

[gulliver]

17. Wow was that great!

The guy who worked with Bush's superior Killian talking about the kind of favors Bush got as being "unconscionable" and "corrupt".

Then Rather with the mighty swat at the end.

Near quote: "We stand by our report. If any credible evidence to the contrary is brought to light, we will report it. So far, there is none!"

[Old and In the Way]

18. The question is, will the other major media outlets report it?

Will ABC and NBC avoid the story? Will they try to discredit it or build on it?.....seems that this is really "news" for the American electorate.

[TexasSissy]

23. SPANK SPANK!

:spank: Go get 'em, Rather! (I've always liked him.....really)

[chieftain]

24. He Not Only Refuted The Forgery Allegations ,

he refocused attention on the questions which W continues to stonewall . Maybe the rest of the punditocracy will understand what real journalism is . Thanks Dan and CBS .

[Demi_Babe]

25. yes he did

AWESOME!!!

[Shopaholic]

27. Please e-mail Dan and let him know we support him---

I got an e-mail reply back earlier from CBS and they thanked me for my support and told me that they're being innudated with negative e-mail but remain committed to being a free media organization!!!

Addy: [e-mail]

[WilliamPitt]

34. Done

[Raster]

36. Done!!!

:kick:

[maryallen]

94. Done!

kick

[Chichiri]

37. Done, with pleasure

[mhr]

44. Done, Just Sent Thank You!

eom

[faithnotgreed]

48. majorly done. heres to a true professional journalist - in america even!

[KoKo]

57. Done! And, I said Edward R. Murrow would be proud of CBS standing

up to these "new McCarthy-ites!"

Edward R. Murrow
Edward R. Murrow. Edward R. Murrow set the standard for television journalism that
continues to challenge and inspire today's television newspersons. ...
statelibrary.dcr.state.nc.us/nc/bio/literary/murrow.htm - 12k - Cached - Similar pages

[Jade Fox]

59. Done. Dan is THE MAN!

He was so great during the Republican convention I knew he must despise
what those people stand for.

[gristy]

62. done

I have appreciated your nightly newscasts for some time now, and your displayed strength tonight is commendable. Our country is at a crossroads, being led by men similar to those who destroyed Enron, Adelphia, Tyco, etc. Our country and constitution is not a rock, impervious to all. It is a living thing, more like a tree, requiring nourishment and protection from the evil forces which would just as soon cut it down.

Thank you for doing what you can.

Regards,

[David Zephyr]

65. Done. Gladly Done.

Thanks scrmirage.

[oasis]

73. Done

[TWiley]

78. Done

[0007]

82. done

[ibegurpard]

83. GODDAMIT DONE!

Here's what I wrote:
"There are MILLIONS of us out there who are behind you one hundred percent and have been waiting for a news organization with the guts to ask hard questions of this administration and refuse to back down. If the media in this country had done that during the lead-up to the Iraq War, perhaps 1000+ dead Americans and countless Iraqis would still be alive. I used to watch CBS News by default because it came on after what I was watching but you can be assured that I will be making a POINT of tuning in from this point on."

Everyone, PLEASE contact them. We may be witnessing the last vestiges of an independent media if we don't back up CBS with our support and our viewership.

[ezekiel333]

85. Done

[JaneQPublic]

88. Done! (n/t)

[Cha]

96. I didn't see it, either, but when you stated that

CBS was being "inundated with negative mail" ..I thought an e-mail from me..couldn't hurt.

Thanks, scrimage!

Thank you, Dan Rather for being a real journalist and investigating the facts instead of being an echo chamber of the White House.

That's all we've wanted.. was a reporter to after a story and not sit on them while some of the biggest news stories in history have come down the pike.


XXXXXXXX
New York

[JohnLocke]

97. Done (nt).

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

103. Done! n/t

[guitar man]

112. Done

Mr. Rather,

Your piece on the Bush ANG documents on 60 Minutes was brilliant. Those of us who have known the truth all along have been waiting for someone with the integrity, character and courage to stand up and present the facts in this matter.

The truth is never partisan. That is why the truth is something every American deserves to hear. Unfortunately, it is something that is all too rare in the 21st century spin-mode media.

You, Sir, are a credit to the profession of journalism. Real journalism.

Sincerely,

[Snellius]

119. Done

Rather may have finally realized there is no neutral journalism any more. They force you to be with them or against them.

[JSG]

122. done

Dear Mr. Rather and the staff of the CBS Evening News:

I am writing to thank you and to commend you for your coverage of the Killian memos. I applaud you for not caving in to what must have been tremendous pressure to drop your coverage.

Dan Rather and the CBS Evening News staff have shown me that they are committed to being a free media organization and that they respect true journalism. You have won my loyal viewership.

Keep up the excellent work!

Sincerely,

(my name and address)

[quaoar]

28. OK, the forgery gambit didn't work

What are the Republicans going to come up with next?

Because they can't just let this one sit out there and fester.

[DoYouEverWonder]

29. Maybe Dan will redeem himself

in his old age? Or maybe he was waiting for just the right moment to show the world that he still has what it takes to be a real journalist?

Go Danny Go!

[canuckybee]

30. are the other networks reporting it?

[Karmadillo]

31. Terror Alert!!!! Terror Alert!!!! Terror Alert!!!!

To be issued at the request of a quaking AWOL about to lose re-election Indumbent in the very near future.

[DemoTex]

33. Excellent, Mr. Rather. You did your profession proud.

.

[LiberalEsto]

35. And NBC (Owned by GE) still repeats the lies!

A couple of minutes after Dan finished his report on the accusations aboutb the documents relating to Airhead's National Guard service, I switched to NBC for a minute.
They were still yammering on about the documents being forged because of the "th" superscript key -- a claim Dan debunked minutes earloier.


Suggestion to NBC News : if you want to find out what's going on, I suggest you tune in to CBS Evening News.

[gulliver]

39. NBC got scooped. Amazing that they would be so petty. n/t

[The Magistrate]

38. Indeed, Mr. Pitt

He rather reduced them to rubble.

It ought to be clear now to anyone with either two brain cells to rub together, or the slightest shred of integrity, that these documents are genuine, and the facts they state are a damning indictment of the lies and fraud that constitutes the life story of the Crawford coward.

"Every word he says is a lie, even 'and' and 'the'."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[DemoTex]

76. To paraphrase what a political opponent once said of Indira Gandhi:

He never tells the truth, even by mistake.

[phish420]

40. Video of this now on my site

http://bushlies2.us
will autoplay on the main page.


Enjoy and distribute!

[GOPisEvil]

47. Thank you!!!

[mhr]

49. Thanks - No TV Here - That Was A Solid Report

eom

[Judi Lynn]

54. WONDERFUL. Case closed! Thanks so much. n/t

[oasis]

56. Thanks a ton.

:-)

[RetroLounge]

60. Wow! Dan Rather kicked some ASS in that report.

Good to see a real journalist for a change...

RL

[in_cog_ni_to]

79. Thank You so much!!

I had missed the earlier report and am so thrilled that you posted this! Thak you! :bounce:

[Insomnicole]

42. Yes! YES!

The questions are: Did Lt. Bush refuse a direct order from a military superior in time of war? That's Question One. Question Two: was he suspended for failure to perform up to the standards of the U.S. Air Force and the Texas National Guard? That's Number Two. Three. Did he ever take the physical he was ordered to take by his military superior? Or if he didn't take that physical, why didn't he take that physical?



On my ride home from work tonight I was just despondent; I'd been reading all these articles about the alleged forgery and I couldn't figure out why the hell the "mainstream" media had allowed itself to be so totally sidetracked by the right wing noise machine. Again.

I can't tell you how happy and relieved it makes me to see Rather staying focused and restating those questions. Really. There are no words.

[Ladyhawk]

111. He even MENTIONED the right wing noise machine!!!

Bully for him!

[enigmatic]

46. So, have those here who were convinced they were fogeries apologized yet?

This should be good..

[Guaranteed]

51. They should. nt

[The Magistrate]

52. Indeed They Should, Mr. Looney

"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[GOPAgainstGW]

53. HERE IS THE "INSIDE SKINNY" ON WHAT IS GOING ON-GOING DOWN!

Dan Rather is a Texas native. He was born and raised outside Houston and then after completing college, cut his television journalist teeth at a National network station in Houston.

He took on the Bush Family "Texas Mafia"(BFTM) several times in the early 70's, and this current situation is more of the "blood feud" between he and H.W. Bush. Dan Rather is very solid, a real pro, first-class credibility (unlike those flake GOP-ops reporters at Fox), and will NOT back down from a deal that he knows he is right. I/we have never seen Dan do it once in 35 years!

The Bush Family Texas Mafia (BFTM) tries to destroy anyone that takes them on, hell just look at their damn track record. You all know this!

More importantly, we will make some phone calls on this deal, and in particular if CBS “60 Minutes” has something cooking to bag the BFTM on several matters we are aware. We keep hearing "little things" on this subject, plus the Washington Post has been digging on this next deal for over a year.

It has to do with the Bush Family corruption, documents the Fed accidentally discovered at Enron (which was a Bush Family business "front operation"), and Bush's "War Dog" House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (Houston) being under a massive Texas criminal grand jury investigation, for fraud, bribery, extortion, money laundering, and criminal abuse of his political office.

The big kicker is Bob “$200,000 donor to O’Neill’s SBVT” Perry (Houston) is involved with DeLay in his criminal enterprise and we mean BIG TIME! Also eleven (11) other BFTM members are involved, in varying degree, including the Texas Governor and other ranking elected State officials, and many of them could go to jail over this deal.

The BFTM is doing everything possible to keep the lid on it, and also get W elected. BFTM needs W elected so he can do Presidential Pardons for BFTM Enron buddies, (Ken Lay), DeLay, Perry, and others that get convicted and sent to prison over this massive criminal enterprise.

That in a nutshell is what’s going on with all the Bush-Cheney-GOP totally outright fraud in their campaign. They don’t have a platform to run on, so the con and fraud game is all they got! They are going nuts because Rather stuck his nose in it. If you recall Dan Rather has stayed pretty neutral in his reporting on the O’Neill-SBVT fraud scam. We know, what I just delineated, because we are well connected Republicans, have several influential Houstonians in our “Beat Bush” cartel, along with two Houston criminal attorney’s – NKR

PS: It should be noted that CBS is owned by Viacom. 70-75% of campaign donations by Viacom (VIA) executives and its political action committee, have gone to the Democratic Party and its candidates.


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Against Bush-Cheney ’04, Inc.
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[DoYouEverWonder]

55. Go get 'em

Glad to have you on our side. Thanks for the info.

[henslee]

61. Who was that masked man? Thank God he's on our side!

[K. F. Gibbons]

66. TOO LATE, DAMAGE DONE!

[Name removed]

67. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Logansquare]

68. Where do they come up with this shit, I ask you?

"Military typewriters," for Christ sakes. It's a fucking typewriter, and it typed the same way all the other IBMs typed. You want to believe that your great leader isn't a fraud, so go ahead and continue. The only forgery around here is George W. Bush.

[janx]

69. Dear God, I'm going to be laughing about that post and your

reply to it for the rest of the night!

Who is feeding the wingnuts lately? Where do they get this stuff?!

[MadamImAdam]

70. Why not address the "th" inconsistency?

The CBS doc "th" was not the same as their example typewrite "th".

Why not address this problem? It WILL come up you know. Let's vet it now.

[janx]

72. Well--let's see...Maybe that, too, has something to do with the

special "military typewriters." Could it be?


Seriously, for your information, superscript has been available on some typewriters for a very long time. And it doesn't always look exactly the same. But one tip-off is the line underneath it, as exhibited even on the very distorted online versions of the Killian memos. That was a classic typewriter rendition of superscript.

[Logansquare]

77. Yes, the special surface-to-air military typewriters

The Soviets struggled to type inside boxes for decades after we had perfected the technology.

[janx]

105. Why, LOOK!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1212788/posts

46. The superscript "th" in the forged documents was raised half-way above the typed line (consistent with MS Word, but inconsistent with military typewriters which kept everything in-line to avoid writing outside the pre-printed boxes of standard forms).

It's a coincidence, but the freeps seem to know about the military typewriters too!

[Kathy in Cambridge]

74. You obviously absorbed today's RW talking point

Good Troll! Good Troll!

Now go back under yer rock and rot! :eyes:

[Insomnicole]

91. Why not address these problems?

Did Lt. Bush refuse a direct order from a military superior in time of war?

Was he suspended for failure to perform up to the standards of the U.S. Air Force and the Texas National Guard?

Did he ever take the physical he was ordered to take by his military superior? Or if he didn't take that physical, why didn't he take that physical?

Well? I'm waiting.

[gardenista]

109. Yeah. Vet it. Like you're trying to "Vet" Bush. Ain't gonna work. nt

[GOPisEvil]

71. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

*points*

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

[Misunderestimator]

80. Johnny One Note

Why are you obsessed with this "th"? Why are you glossing over all the facts? If you're an "honest Democrat" as you stated on another thread, why aren't you trying to debunk the people who say it's a forgery, instead of repeating the same stuff we've already heard a million times?

[Obamarama]

86. You'll find the truth in the dictionary....

But not under "th." Look under the "tr" section, then scroll down to the word TROLL.

[Vadem]

92. Oh, for Christ's sakes! I have typed on a Selectric typewriter...

since the 60's for goodness sakes, being a secretary, first for the Congress and later, for law firms. Yes, we "squeezed" letters (proportional spacing) so many times to fit on documents that were "whited out" at the last minute before filing a legal document at the last minute before copying and running the filing to the court house or to administrative agencies! Yes, you could squeeze type from an IBM Selectric and also move the platen one-half space up or down to do superscripts or subscripts! This whole argument by the Bush campaign is so stupid, considering the many secretaries and typists who know the truth about IBM Selectrics, and superscripts and subscripts before the era of the wordprocessor!

[Walt Starr]

101. After carefully examining your post and thoughtful consideration

I'd say it has something to do with the FUCKING TOMBSTONE IN YOUR PROFILE!

[0rganism]

81. My letter to CBS News

Dear CBS News & Dan Rather,

I would like to commend you in advance for not succumbing to pressure to drop or degrade your coverage of Killian's memos. I understand this will be difficult, and you probably have a horde of rightwingers ticked as all get-out right now for practicing responsible journalism. Please don't hesitate to pull out the old IBM Composer if you need to do some live on-the-air debunking. The vetting of the signatures and the corroborative living witnesses make a compelling case independent of the typesetting, of course.

I trust that once the other news outlets have gotten over their jealousy at being scooped by your team, they'll give out appropriate apologies to the public whose trust they've abused.... not.

The "methodology" (if it can be called that) by which other major news networks have co-created a mammoth fiction that began as little more than a poorly-evidenced rumor on certain reactionary websites is itself worthy of examination. I'm sure you could do an excellent job of exposing this rumor mill, and its effect on the degraded state of American journalism.

You guys are doing a great job this week. Thank you for not caving in to the demands of echo-chamber-driven fanatics. True journalism is about something of a higher order, and Dan Rather has shown me that he respects it.

Best Regards,
xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Walt Starr]

84. I now raise my odds, 100:1 says Rather has additional documents

and he's just WAITING for any high level Republican to cry foul.

What I am saying is, Rather has additional documents from the same batch that are 100% unrelated to this story, but have Killian's signature and were typed on the same typewriter. To top it off, there would be copies already obtained from official Pentagon records that are buried somewhere.

He's too damn smart to get caught on something like this. This should show EVERYBODY something. Those who followed my ribbon story should be familiar with the level of detail I examined, however,the story itself is not 100% solid without a copy of the regulations from the time period. Ergo, no RESPONSIBLE journalist is going to run with it.

By comparison, the infowhores on cable news didn't just run with rumors from the internet, they jumped into a jet and went mach 3 as soon as Freepers screamed JUMP!

This is where a liberal differs from a conservatives. Liberal dot all "i's" and cross all "t's" before running with something nationally. Conservative infotaniment whores just plain don't give a shit.

[Vadem]

87. Damn right, Will! I sent him an email stating that we finally have a

real journalist! I always thought Dan was a real journalist, but when, during the "selection" he declared that Bush was his "president", and he was not questioning all the things that we were questioning, I thought that he had gone over to the dark side. Perhaps he did at the time, but now I think he has realized where his real feelings lay. About time, I say to Dan, and Thank the Good Lord for it!

[Kazak]

90. These criminals have been casting stones from a glass house for 4 years...

I didn't see it, but it sure sounds like Rather finally scored a direct hit. Whooo!!! He should be sainted.

[The Ref]

95. I need some information

Puke associate claims that contrary to 60 minutes' assertion, the other guy (H something) is not only not a Republican, but he gave something like $2500 to Dean. (Is that even legal?) Anybody here about this or has any info to debunk it?

And also: He said showed me a web page with a Selectric manual. The "superscripts" aren't really superscripts at all in this manual. They are simply full-size characters written half a line up. Now, I know some manual typewriters had shifted keys that could produce a "TH," like the document Rather showed. And I think the Selectric manual was a lot older than 1973. But does anyone recall a Selectric with shrunken superscripts like are on the document?

[vetwife]

99. Yes..Like the other corporate secretaries on here

We had all of this down pat when typing and using white out and changing ribbons and then the ball and the cartridges. They have been around since I was typing and I started typing in 1966.

[The Magistrate]

100. Yeppers

The Selectrics in my department didn't have sub and superscript because everything we typed was for internal use, so ours weren't as fancy. The secretaries who typed legal documents had IBMs that did it all.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

102. dammit...the above wasn't posted by The Magistrate

He was never a secretary. I posted the above. I really have to start checking the logins before I post.

[frylock]

113. that was pretty obvious..

I've never seen The Magistrate speak so colloquially.. Ma'am! ;)

[gardenista]

104. Gee, I wish NPR had talked to Rather before they gave air time

to a so-called expert who claimed that he was "99% sure" that the documents were forged.

[BurtWorm]

106. Wouldn't it be pretty to think so.

:eyes:

[AVID]

107. kickin

[Ladyhawk]

110. Wow, he actually calls out the partisan Internet crackpots! n/t

[autorank]

114. Thank you WilliamPitt--UDAMAN!

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115. Deleted message

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[JCMach1]

116. I can't believe you are falling for the Freeper tripe

begone I say

[oasis]

117. Do you presume to know more about this than the CBS document expert?

[Walt Starr]

118. Wow, your thought provoking post has altered my opinion considerably

Freepers aren't just dumb,

They're DEAD FROM THE NECK UP!!!

Thus, the tombstone in your profile!

[Karmadillo]

120. Logic too compelling...Can't resist....Must vote for Bush... Must demand

rich be given an even larger tax cut and minimum wage be cut to pay for it...Quayle in 2008!!!!

[Walt Starr]

121. Original Naysayers are backpedaling

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/09/11/MNGO68NEKR1.DTL

And Sludge apparently is pointin the finger at "internet bloggers" (aka Freeper "morans")