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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:18 PM
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MSNBC has it on right now
their "expert" says they were made by a 'modern day computer'

Reading Dan Rather's statement....
:kick:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:19 PM
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1. Who is their "expert" and what proof have they provided? eom
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Protected Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:23 PM
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5. It seems his only "proof" was that
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 07:24 PM by Jonathan Little
the address on the May 4th document was centered very well. I wonder what documents he was analyzing... They wouldn't have him analyzing printouts of PDF documents, right? :eyes:

I don't remember his name, though. The report was by David Gregory and seemed like material that was probably recycled from the NBC Nightly News broadcast.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:27 PM
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10. Thanks for the info. eom
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:35 PM
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19. um, centering was easy on a manual
I learned it even though I got a D in high school typing. All you had to do was fold your paper in half longways before inserting it into the machine, then count the number of letters and spaces you needed to type and divide by two (something I could do even with a B- in math). Use the crease to line up the middle of your word, backspace and voila!

morans
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:29 PM
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12. Alison Stewart used CBS points to debunk the forgery allegations
She pointed out that Bush's own previously released records have the small th and that the company who introduced the new roman style brought it out in 1931. These remarks effectively discredited the so-called "expert" who speculated that those features indicated the papers were fakes.

(I also had to laugh at the expert's lame speculation that it is unlikely the address would have been centered that way using a typewriter since it is harder to do than on a computer.
Sure, everything is easier on a computer, but we still did those things on a typewriter- I remember being taught in typing class over 30 years ago how to center an address exactly like the address shown on the memo.)
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:31 PM
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15. Thanks.
Sounds like Alison Stewart handled it well.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:34 PM
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17. Me too
I can't believe that an expert would think we couldn't center a heading. I had to do that on all of my term papers.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:37 PM
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20. Boy, this expert wouldn't have survived an office job in the 60/70's
If he finds it hard to center an adress on a typewriter, he wouldn't have lasted more than a few days! I also remember learning how to do that in typing class and (hide) it was 45 years ago. It's really funny to see the young "experts" speak about technology that doesn't exist any more except in museums.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:21 PM
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2. Looked like the same guy that had the magnifying glass
up to his eye in the Florida recount.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:22 PM
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3. lol! :) n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:23 PM
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4. Is their expert on air risking his name and career to back this? Is he?
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:25 PM
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9. This just in
MSNBC "expert" called "reputable."

Currently doing 7-15 for forgery - name/address withheld by request.
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ItsMyParty Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:24 PM
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6. What program is this on??---isn't this Olberman's slot n/t
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:25 PM
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8. it is, but he's not there
Allison Stewart - David Gregory did the story.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:25 PM
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7. If the originals show strike marks and
the signatures show pressure creases and the signature authenticated what is their next objection. I know Freepres will find some.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:28 PM
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11. Then - "this could be put to rest if..."
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 07:34 PM by nu_duer
someone would just come forward and verify that bush did indeed fulfill his obligations in the Alabama National Guard. The Texans for Truth will announce a cash incentive for anyone who can come forward and very bush was there and fulfilled his obligations there.

That's how the piece ended - leaving the docs a question, but ending with how easily this could all be put to rest if only someone could come forward and vouch for bush. YES!

Of course, that wouldn't really put to rest the issue of HOW bush got into the guard, and MSNBC didn't mention that, or Barnes, in this piece, but still, the gist of this report tosses the ball back into bush's camp, fake docs or no.

I think it says a lot about the character of honorable men who, after all these years, refuse to set aside their integrity to lie for bush (and I have no doubt the bribe offers have been tempting). And if there were someone who would lie for the coward in chief, he'd have done it by now.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:31 PM
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13. They all seemed to have stopped
talking about how he got into the guard. Amazing. Just change the subject to they made it up and the media follows along.
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ItsMyParty Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:31 PM
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14. Hasn't David Gregory been kicked around and insulted enough by
Bush. Oh,must have the family to feed and thus, out with the kneepads. Keep playing with him, David, and you will end up destroyed just like all those who were bending over and trying to play nice with the Bushes.
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:33 PM
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16. The Good News- Millions watch CBS- Nobody Watches MSNBC
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:34 PM
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18. CNN, NBC & ABC Still Haven't Addressed Dan Rather's Slap In Their Faces.
All are still reporting the old news about "th's" and "conformal spacing".

Their new managing editors KNOW that they are still running with old news and must be quaking to figure out a response to CBS's moment.

WORST: NOT ONE IS DEALING WITH THE REAL ISSUE: MAKING BUSH BEGIN TO ANSWER VERY SERIOUS QUESTIONS.
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