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jumpstart33 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:40 PM
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I ask the question that dare not be spoken: Did Bush miss his medical
exam because he knew his coke use would show up? Otherwise, why go through all the trouble that he did to not show up for a physical?

Where are the folks who snorted with the Chimp? If they are not brain-dead and have an ounce of integrity they should come forward. But I guess they rightly fear for their lives. If they were too cowardly to go to Nam, they would be too cowardly to tell the truth.
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Darby Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:42 PM
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1. * had time to see a dentist, but not a doctor for a physical?
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:47 PM
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2. I've seen 3 theories on DU on why Bush might have missed the exam
(1) he was afraid of what a drug test might reveal

(2) during that period, he was busted on a drug charge in Houston and his father interceded with the Judge who assigned him to community service, with an order not to leave the jurisdiction of Houston during his period of community service

(3) he was having a gay affair with James Bath (who also missed his medical at the same time and was suspended from flying), was caught, and was then quietly told not to bother showing up for his medical exam because he would never be allowed to fly again.
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flyingfysh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:52 PM
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3. Bath?
Wasn't James Bath the person mentioned by Michael Moore in Fahrenheit 9/11 as having connections to Saudi investment interests?

His name was blacked out on the official-released copy of part of Bush's military records, but somehow Moore found a less-censored version.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:58 PM
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4. Jim Bath ...
Who knows me, but I don't know him (scary, that), was suspended from flying for TANG on the same set of orders that suspended Bu$h.

Bath approached me at a party in Houston in the early 80s (I was working for Ken Lay) and engaged me in conversation. He knew me by name. I knew Jim Bath by reputation (JB&A, aircraft brokers, CIA spooks). He must have known me as an aviation writer.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:00 PM
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5. Did he miss the physical, PERIOD.
There are documents of his direct order to report for a physical. Did he show up, or did he disobey a direct order?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:27 PM
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10. And that is another incident considered AWOL
Military personnel are considered AWOL when they are not present for any required duty.

Guard duty
Training operations
Target practice
Any exam... physical, mental, drug, etc.
Any order by their superior
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ItsThePeopleStupid Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:13 PM
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6. Does anyone know about permanent physical changes from coke?
I remember a famous basketball player getting caught for smoking crack, I think, and the news said it creates scars on your heart from tiny myocardial infarctions. I don't know if plain coke does this.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:15 PM
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7. Of course that's why he missed his medical.
Anyone with half a brain knows that. Too bad so many Americans have less than half a brain.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:17 PM
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8. That was the speculation in the Boston Globe of 2000
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:26 PM
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9. It's so odd because coke only stays in your system for a few days.
He had to have been a heavily addicted user if this is the reason. If you can't stay clean for a week you are a stone junkie. I would think it would be more due to marijuana use which stays in your system a much longer time.
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:00 PM
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11. How many coke addicts take "only" one drug?
Not many.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:44 PM
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12. My point exactly.
I think he was more concerned with pot showing up in his system. Then again he is such a dumbass and a slacker he may not have known any of the info on urinalysis and drugs. Any recreational user worth his salt knows this shit.
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:49 PM
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13. did they do drug testing back then?
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:22 AM
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14. kick
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lunarboy13 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:28 AM
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15. Yes, in fact, the Military started in April of 1972...
Just before Bushie missed his medical exam...so think about that!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:31 AM
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16. Yes.
I've worked with several Vietnam era vets and they all attest to it. The most popular way to beat it then was to scoop someone else's out of the toilet and hope. The testing wasn't anywhere near as sophisticated as it is today with temperature indicators and whatnot but testing was done. On Pilots definitely.
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