Excellent Analysis & Documentation on the CBS Dan Rather Fiasco!

[GOPAgainstGW]

Media Matters for America
Forgery feeding frenzy: Media falling afoul of the facts
http://mediamatters.org/items/200409100010

NOTE: MMFA is one of four sites, including DU, in which we contribute.

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“Insider’s News” Vol 1.1 - Great Anti-Bush Sites
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[hlthe2b]

1. Yes, thanks! Question for you, GOPAgainstGW

You may have done so previously, but can you say a bit about your group?

[GOPAgainstGW]

2. Read "Insider News" Links First Post-ONeill's Fraud Started Our Group

O'Neill and the SBVT scam operation is what started our group up to fight it, we are all sick of Bush for starting a 50 Year Holy War in the Middle East, which we have substantial knowledge, and we are also worried about the terrorists hitting Houston next. All the public International intel we track give us great concern on this subject and has for over a year.


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"Insider’s News”, Vol 1 - Kerry-Edwards Campaign Doing Well
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“Insider’s News” Vol 1.1 - Great Anti-Bush Sites
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x756409

[discopants]

3. claim that 'wikipedia' info hacked about Selectric superscript capability

Following the MediaMatters link, is this for real?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AIBM_Selectric_typewriter

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What superscripting? I see no superscripting here

The ability of typewriters in the 70s to insert superscripts has become an issue in the presidential campaign. Somebody (anonymous, first and only wiki-contribution) whipped in here last night with a can of white out and removed the statement that the platen-adjustment on Selectric II's was for inserting superscripts. I put it back in and now add a note here just to make sure no ax-grinder takes it back out.

http://desperado-list.blogspot.com/2004_09_01_desperado-list_archive.html#109482901309471520

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The Bush campaign/administration's ability to track down and destroy enemy thought is phenomenal. No more had the MicroSoft re-Wording issue been raised about the memos demonstrating young Bush's blowing off (and I do mean blow) of his military obligations, than an anonymous contributor slipped in to the open-source encyclopedia Wikipedia to white out an inconvenient fact.

One treasured point in attacking the memos was the supposed inability of typewriters in the 70s to insert superscripts. The anonymous contributor, one who had never before touched a wiki word, went straight to the article on the IBM Selectric Typewriter last night and removed one parenthesized phrase:
The Selectric II had a lever (above the right platen knob) that would allow the platen to be turned freely but return to the same vertical line (for inserting such symbols as subscripts and superscripts), whereas the Selectric I did not.
Since it's open source, and I had already contributed to the article on that beloved typewriter, I put the superscripting right back in.

[discopants]

4. here's the article that linked to that discussion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter

was it hacked to remove info superscript capabilities of the Selectric II?

[qazplm]

5. look

the problem is so many of the people who knew him coming out and saying they dont think he wrote it, and that all of the different critiques have at least a fair veneer of reasonableness.

it could all be true, but CBS is doing a very poor job of providing proof.

[The Magistrate]

8. Nonsense, Sir

So far, the persons saying he would not have written it are all partisan supporters of the Crawford coward, and may be relied on to speak as their political desires would dictate.

Several persons who not only knew but worked with the dead man have stated the documents are quite consonant wit the man they knew, and his situation.

The fact remains that nothing at all in these documents is really new: they simply confirm in the words of the immediate superior what is already clear in the public record.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[against all enemies]

6. The truth doesn't stand a chance in this Administration.

[TacticalPeek]

7. Kick.

:kick: