The Killian Memos: What's At Stake

[Bolo Boffin]

From my blog:

I'm not going to polish this post up - it's a timeline for Bush's fifth year of service, fitting the Killian memos into the framework. It shows you clearly what is at stake if the memos can be proven authentic.

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Dad calls Allison (Blount campaign), gets Bush deputy spot - Spring 72

Last Bush service date for a while - 14 April 72

Killian Memo - 4 May 1972
- Orders Lt. Bush to physical no later than 14 May 72
- By regulations, Bush had until end of July?
- Last physical: 10 May 71

***This appears to be a standard order

Bush clears base (See 2 May 73) - 15 May 72

Killian Memo - 19 May 1972
- Bush calls about getting out of drill until November
- Informs Killian of "working on another campaign for his dad"
- Killian says 3 month of ET or transfer; Bush wants to transfer to any unit that will have him
- Get physical fixed by then? Bush will in Alabama if continuing in flight status, but has campaign and "other things to do after that"
- Killian reminds him of investment and commitment
- Bush then "has a unit in mind" - 9921st, evidently
- Killian suspects Bush is "talking to someone upstairs"

***Killian feels like he's getting played here. Bush first wants any unit that will have him, then suddenly produces ones? And he's getting antsy on the physical.

Bush Application for 9921st, Alabama - 24 May 72

9921st's Approval - 26 May 72

Bush's Birthday - 27 May 1972
-Fifth year of Guard service begins

111st Recommend Approval - June 72
- Killian not on this document

Bush Denied 9921st Assignment - Unclear
- Bush has a Military Obligation to fly
- Bush can't fulfill MO at 9921st

Bush Grounded on Killian's Verbal Order - 1 Aug 72
- Missed flight physical
- Source: 29 Sept 72 summary

Killian Memo - 01 August 1972
- Killian notes his verbal orders about grounding Bush
- Reasons: not meeting standards (no attempt to meet training certification) and not getting flight physical
- Requested orders of suspension and convening of flight review board
- Notes his recommend of transfer to 9921st which was denied.
- Also notes Bush's desire to be assigned to non-flying billets
- Looking for a pilot to replace Bush

***This is bad news: Killian grounds because Bush isn't attempting to train (payroll records confirm) and missed his flight physical (direct order). Killian is trying to suspend Bush, calls for a flight inquiry, and is looking for a replacement. IF THIS MEMO IS REAL, THEN WHERE IS THE PAPERWORK?

Republican National Convention - 21-23 August 1972
-Bush attended

Bush Asks Killian's Permission for 187th Assignment - 5 September 72
- For September, October, and November only

AL Approval 187th Assignment - 15th September 72
-Can't train September
-October 7-8, November 4-5
-"Bush can't satisfy flight requirements with our group"

Prescott Bush dies of cancer - 8 October 72
-Conflict with AL training in October

Bush resumes service - 28-29 October 72
-Payroll records
-Credited to October
-Arranged to miss 4-5 November service due to election?

Election Day - 8 November 72

Bush's November service - 11-14 November 1972
-Four days
-Makeup for September time?
-Credited to November

Bush's bad month - December 1972
-Wrecks car, challenges dad to fight "mano a mano"
-Drives bicycle in front of mom's car

"Bush not observed" - 2 May 73 (?)

Bush Buckles Down - May through July 1973
- Extensive service
- In late April, Bush is ordered to attend INACTRA dates
- Those dates are marked as code 50 on Bush's payroll records
- Many more code 50s are marked, and one long week of 22 (regular drills)

Killian Memo - 19 August 1973
- Staudt (retired for 1 1/2 years) is pressuring Hodges about Bush
- Staudt wants Bush's OETR sugarcoated
- Killian has no info from 187th, and Bush wasn't in Houston during rating period
- A second call: Killian agrees to backdate OETR but not rate Bush with Harris's agreement

***Staudt is leaning on Hodges, and Hodges is leaning on Killian via Harris. This is about filing Bush's 72-73 OETR which isn't filed as of 19 August 73. Killian was sitting on the OETR, and finally buckled on 19 August 73 - to a point. He doesn't rate because Bush didn't train in Houston during this time and he has nothing from the 187th, at this late date.

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Which means: all payroll records from Bush's fifth year were in Alabama or were fraudulent pay. The frequency of pay records makes the Alabama choice untenable - no one remembers him! I could buy being missed by some in October and November, but January, February, and April as well? No way. No way.

The memos are evidence then of Bush's disobeying of a direct order and his failure to find a proper training unit. They are also evidence of a suspension and flight inquiry called for which appear nowhere in the records. They may also be evidence of Bush's attendance and payroll records being forged - which means rank corruption in the Texas ANG.

Which also alleges that the sitting President of the United States cashed government checks for service he had not performed, participating in a defrauding of the military during war and has lied about this to this very day.

The memos fit into the given records like a key into a lock. The question of their authenticity will be the defining moment of this campaign. This must be settled beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[goodhue]

1. excellent timeline

the memos are authentic

[Bolo Boffin]

2. I know : )

But the mainstream media is hammering on CBS to produce the actual memos. If there's a way to protect their source and get the originals inspected, I think they should do it.

That's what it's coming down to in the public arena. Without the originals, the story is going nowhere.

[GOPAgainstGW]

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[zoeb]

3. Why isn't the Whitehouse...

claiming these documents forgeries? Screaming forgeries!!!!
AP has McClellan saying this:

Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said Friday the White House, which distributed the memos after obtaining them from CBS News, was not trying to verify their authenticity. "We don't know if the documents are fabricated or authentic," McClellan told reporters.

McClellan suggested the memos surfaced as part of "an orchestrated effort by Democrats and the Kerry campaign to tear down the president."

I think the Whitehouse knows the memos are true but are afraid of saying anything because CBS may have the trump card up their sleeve. i.e. someone that can prove they're real.
Now wouldn't that be a hoot!

[BlueEyedSon]

4. 1972 : Project P.U.L.L. community service in Houston

:evilgrin:

[Bolo Boffin]

5. Do you have dates for that?

I've never seen a range for Bush's community service in P.U.L.L.

[BlueEyedSon]

8. Me neither, but if this can be substantiated, it belongs in his Guard

timeline....

[Bolo Boffin]

11. Yes, it belongs there - it happened

I've heard a lot about it, but never a date on when it happened...

[Bolo Boffin]

7. Got Bush's birthday wrong

And can't fix it now.

Bush was born July 6th. May 27 is his day of induction into the Guard, though.

Sorry about that.

[bushwakker]

9. project pull

some stuff i found from a promo movie of bush


compassionate conservatism GWB: Well, a wonderful man named John White asked me to come and work with him in a project in the 3rd Ward of Houston called Project P.U.L.L.; it was a mentoring program.

Ernie Ladd, Co-founder P.U.L.L.: The meaning of P.U.L.L. was Professionals United Leadership League. We had professional people who were school teachers, football players, basketball players, lawyers and doctors involved in helping go into the community and help minority kids.

GWB: I realized then that a society can change and must change one person at a time and, but it was a place that was full of activity and energy and kids were, you know kids were coming from tough circumstances. I saw that first hand one night when I took a little boy who I took a shining to, named Jimmy Dean, I took him home and situation I had never seen before. It was a living room with his mom, looked like she was on drugs and there was a bunch of hanger on-ers and smoke-filled and this was this boys home, and it was tragic and sad that he was growing up in such a tough environment, an environment that where the love that I had known as a child--it seemed like the drugs and alcohol abuse had replaced that love. And unfortunately the story ends on a sad note. My little friend was shot when he became a teenager and died.

God Ernie Ladd: We are all made in the image of God regardless of the color of skin and George Bush was a part of our working in the south of the city of Houston. The city of Houston can be very well thankful for George Bush and John White.

[LizW]

10. Awesome

Thanks for that timeline. I'm printing this out.

And Zoeb is correct in saying that the WH isn't saying these docs are forgeries because they know the truth, and they're afraid CBS has proof.

It just gets better and better. Not only did Bush fail to serve, he took money for service he didn't do! If nothing else ever comes out, it is clear that Bush got special treatment because of family connections, and he used that special treatment to avoid service.

Of course the people who were instrumental in pressing for this special treatment are going to say they didn't do it. They are corrupt. They allowed a powerful family to make them break the rules. Of course they're going to lie now and say they didn't do it. They've probably all been sweating for years that this would come back to bite them.

[Bolo Boffin]

12. Updated to include new Killian memos.

The memos reveal an internally consistent story that fits the official documents like a key into a lock.

When Hodges thought they were handwritten, he confirmed that these memos reflect what Killian was telling him at the time. Their authenticity looks better and better, and the information is real.

Keep up the pressure!