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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 04:03 PM
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I've noticed that the Republicans are mailing absentee ballots
To registered party members. (I have two friends that received theirs)

At first I thought it was an implication that the Dems would somehow try to cheat (!)
The more I thought about it I wondered if the reason was to ensure fewer non-enthusiastic Repub voters staying home on Nov. 2.

Another theory I have is that it will encourage repubs to vote NOW, before they have a chance to change their minds.

Is there an "official' reason for the ballots?
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gospelized Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 04:06 PM
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1. the official reason
is so their votes count, since they have poll sabotaging planned.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 04:07 PM
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2. I am sure they are going to try...it's their only hope. They'll never win
a legitimate election.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:20 PM
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17. Oh I get it. So when the "terrorism" they keep warning us about happens
most all of their votes will actually be counted.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:49 AM
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20. Bingo
we have a winner!
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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 04:07 PM
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3. They want to lock them in early
Cause they know it will be a bad September.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 04:09 PM
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4. before they have a chance to change their minds.
this is what i saw sending em during the campaign while they were on a hate high
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 04:11 PM
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5. That could be a problem too!
Again, I can't recall where I read this, but in the last week or so, I read about the recent Florida vote for primaries where the Sec. of State was counting the votes for herself, and there were several thousand absentee ballots that were counted twice! This was discovered when they were doing a recount because of a dispute. I'm not sure if absentee is the way to go!!!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:18 PM
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11. Yep
Ms. Theresa Lepore, creator of butterfly ballot, did not get enough votes to stay a supervisor of electors even though ~ 6,700 absentee ballots were counted twice.
LOL.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 04:22 PM
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6. DId they receive the ballots or applications for ballots
In Texas, one has to explicitly ask for an absentee ballot based on certain criteria... and then you can't vote except within certain dates.
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 07:41 PM
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9. EXACTLY!! WHAT THE GOP IS DOING IN MOST STATES IS ILLEGAL!!!
AND SHOULD BE REPORTED TO THE LOCAL ELECTION BOARDS AND TO ALL THE MAJOR MEDIA OUTLETS.

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:20 PM
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12. I agree
I looked at the rules here in OH and there is a set of rules that says you can vote absentee if you will be absent or sick. So, this in fact seems to be against the rules-they encourage people to vote absentee by sending them ballot forms even though these people will not be absent.
I hope somebody does something about it.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 04:25 PM
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7. I got an absentee ballot application from the KE campaign and a
phone call from the state party asking if I wanted one (I said no because I will vote on election day) and if anyone else in my family needed one.

Have others gotten these calls and applications also?
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 04:28 PM
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8. most states you have to REQUEST a absentee ballot
I am amazed that someone is sending these out
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:22 PM
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13. I believe they only send applications, not ballots themselves.
But still, you are only supposed to vote absentee if you will be absent or sick.

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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:25 PM
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14. they have an application to apply to have an absentee ballot sent
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:16 PM
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10. it isn't illegal
in most states to attach an absentee ballot application to a partisan political mailing. I do this all the time in my direct mail for Democratic candidates. The law on this varies by state.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:48 PM
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15. It must vary by state. I Ga. I was specificaly told I could
man the table to register voters, but I could not have any partisan stuff there at all, and I could not wear my (at that time) Dean tee shirt. Now this was told to me by the Dem Party folks, but I'd bet that they were correct. We were VERY careful never to have any coordination with the candidate, and all that legal stuff.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:16 PM
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16. Republicans are not mailing ballots
to people. They are mailing requests. No party in the US can mail out "ballots", they are sent out in reply to absentee ballot requests parties print out and mail to their supporters.


In Iowa this happened all the time in 2002. I must have received 10 mailings with absentee ballot request forms from the Democratic Party. This is a perfectly legal thing to do UNLESS the state restricts absentee voting to those meeting specific criteria. In Iowa early voting for any reason is legal.

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xcmt Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:05 AM
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18. Well, yes and no.
They're sending out and calling about requests. I spoke with my girlfriend's grandfather today (a Republican if there ever was one) and he commented that, despite declining an absentee ballot both by mail and phone, he was sent one anyway.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:36 AM
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19. In most states one has to sign to get an absentee ballot sent;
if he was sent a ballot and never signed for one, he should call the local election office to see if they can look at the signature on the request (if one is required in his state). There is always the possibility of forgery.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:53 AM
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21. Those are applications for ballots. Ballots can only be sent by the
county clerk.
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