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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:01 AM
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Sunday morning news shows screw us again
Edited on Sun Sep-12-04 10:16 AM by Cyrano
Colin Powell was the lead guest on "Meet The Press (NBC)."

He was also the lead guest with George Stephanopolis (ABC).

And Condi Rice was the lead guest with Bob Scheifer (CBS).

Colin Powell has, over the past four years, thrown away his honor, his integrity and his character.

Condelezza Rice has been in a job that was over her head. (She's a Soviet specialist and didn't have a clue about the Middle East. Not to mention the memo of August '01 that warned of an attack on American soil).

Why are Bush apologists and incompetents given leads on the Sunday morning news shows?

Well, I might as well be spitting into the wind by asking why is Bush leading the current polls by double digits.

To again quote H. L. Mencken, "No one ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence of the American people."

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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:06 AM
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1. I watched MTP
One thing I noticed. NOTHING said about the CBS report, or about the forgery accusations. That seems weird to me. Are the networks backing off because they know the memos are genuine?
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:10 AM
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6. I missed CBS today, Damn... You would have thought that
something would have beeen said. It seems to be like that on all the networks.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:12 AM
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7. You got it. First they started the he said she said stuff- instead of
doing their own investigations to prove CBS was inaccurate if they wanted to be the partisans they really are. They knew the memos were accurate - so they used the he said she said- then ignored them. we need no other proof they are whores. They are trying to subvert our democracy right now- and we need to call them on it -Boycott all the Rusert sponsors don't buy GE light bulbs, anything to hurt GE should be done. ANYTHING.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:00 AM
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10. That would be my guess
They pulled out all that freeper horseshit and expected CBS News to retreat into disgrace. Didn't happen. Now they're backing away from it like it's radioactive, because they are the ones who have been caught lying.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:07 AM
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2. Yes our Sunday mornings , don't make Mondays any better.
I love the quote, H. L. Mencken, "No one ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence of the American people."


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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:07 AM
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3. Of course they're the leads...
they're the administration. That's the way it works.

But, anyone who is half awake knows that the situation in Afghanistan and Iraq isn't nearly as rosy as Condi paints it.

Anyone who waited for Joe Biden to respond would get an entirely different picture.

And, anyone watching Madeline Albright right now would get an earfull.

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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:08 AM
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4. Geez, so did the saturday afternoon shows...and the Friday evening shows..
and.. and..and..

I haven't gotten used to it yet, but the pattern is at least becoming a refuge of stability.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:08 AM
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5. I'm watching powell's lies now.....
Is he truly evil, like the rest of them, or merely delusional?
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:56 AM
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9. Powell is and has always been just as vile as Bush*.
Because he was in uniform, he's gotten much less scrutiny. He was involved in the My Lai cover up and that really boosted his career. He's been rotten from day one.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:32 AM
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8. Wrong quote.
Mencken said "taste", not "intelligence". Big difference.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:34 AM
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11. MTP generally sucked
Thoughts:

I resented Bush and Powell both for taking a national resource (Powell) and turning him into a political animal. He was articulate but slippery and disingenuous, spinning his way through the interview like a pro.

One of the more amazing, disappointing moments came when Powell defended what Cheney said about an attack if this administration weren't re-elected. He says the nation knows how the current administration would react to an attack (as though we think positively of it) and we have no idea how Kerry would react.

I resented Russert for passing on obvious follow-up questions to Powell, but as soon as Albright came on, he clearly wanted to return time and again to a point he was trying to make and pressed her with many follow-ups.

Albright missed many opportunities. When Russert asked her how she can reconcile Kerry's recent statement that 200 billion has been wasted with Kerry's previous comment on MTP that more money is needed to win in Iraq, she focused on the waste in inefficient spending in Iraq. She could have made the bigger point that is more important: Once Bush screwed all of us and got us in, it is going to take a better, more expensive effort to get us out. The disaster was getting us in in the first place, and that's the 200 billion that Kerry is complaining about.

The question came up about Kerry's statement that he would vote for IWR if he had it to do over again. Still doesn't sound good, even though I understand the fine points. I wish he would have said that he would have voted for the authorization even knowing about WMD, but knowing what he knows about this administration, he would not.

Seymour was not helpful. The Abu Ghraib stuff was not eye-opening and strong and some of his other comments were not helpful to Kerry in terms of finishing the Iraq war.

Sucked.

How is it that, with all the disasters, fumbles, scandals, incompetence, dishonesty, mistakes and errors, it doesn't ever work out that this admiinistration looks bad in the media? There's 10 MTP shows worth of discussion on how badly the BA has performed. Yet, Kerry surrogates always seem defensive.

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KerryWilWin Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:37 AM
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12. Richard Holbrooke was on Faux
but other than that it was the typical Brit Hume-Bill Kristol circle jerk
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:54 AM
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13. I can't believe the quesiton Wolf Blitzkreiger just asked his guest
He had Senator Pat Roberts and Bob Graham on his show. He asked Pat Roberts about the detonation of some kind of a bomb in North Korea recently and whether they were doing it because it meant that the North Koreans wanted Bush to lose the election.

Why would that necessarily mean they want Bush to lose? Couldn't that just as soon mean they want him to win? Wouldn't that make more sense, in fact, since terrorism is Bush's only issue? Why would Blitzkreiger try to plant into people's minds that a belligerant North Korea prefers John Kerry and dislikes George Bush in a US election?
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