War Against The Fundies

[mitchum]

They ARE Bush's base. Every week from now until November, puipit-dwelling grifters will be exhorting their flocks to vote for the fraud. They are religous FANATICS. They not only taint all Christians, they are intent upon establishing a theocracy in this country.
Mockery is not enough. They must be defeated.

[Dzimbowicz]

1. Agreed!

According to them, since I am Agnostic, I am not an American.


www.veteransforpeace.org

Like Elvis Costello sang: "What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?"

[mitchum]

2. Welcome to DU!

I know that you are surrounded by those dangerous loons, since I am a former upstate resident myself :)

[Dzimbowicz]

5. As Bartles and James used to say...

Thank you for your support!

[madfloridian]

3. Bush does not like some of them, according to this.

From Dean's new book. I found this at Kos. Someone who already has their book looked it up after the projo article which referred to the statement.

SNIP...DEAN..."I hadn't started out a Bush basher. In fact, I'd been predisposed to like George Bush. I knew him personally and had dealt with him professionally when we were both governors. He'd always been charming and hospitable to me and my family, both in the Governor's Mansion in Texas and at the White House. He'd always been more than upright in the business dealings between our states, keeping his word when he had no legal obligation to do so. What I knew of his record in Texas bespoke a moderate man who was willing to put pragmatism before ideology, to raise taxes when necessary to equalize state education spending, and to take some heat from the right wing of his party for doing so. ("I hate those people," he'd once snarled at me when I ribbed him at a White House governors' gathering about some trouble he was having in Texas with the Christian Coalition.)"

[maxsolomon]

4. fundamentalism vs. secular modernism

is the war OBL declared on 9-11.

the mystery is why american christian fundies think they're on OUR side when they'd like to impose a theocracy on america, too.

[Coventina]

12. Ah, but it would be THEIR theocracy

Not an evil Muslim one.

Of course, what would happen is that they would eventually start turning on each other.

Witch hunts ahoy!!!

[mr_du04]

6. I have nothing against those who believe in God

but, the fundies for the most part are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. They hide behind their bibles and tell the rest of us we are going to hell, all while they are spreading nothing but hate against the gays, the Arabs and the Jews.

[Octafish]

7. They aren't just dumb. They're packing. See: Christian Reconstructionism

Like the Taliban, they want their version of religion to be the nation's law. I imagine their world would have little use for dissenters or free thinkers.

http://www.apocalipsis.org/reconstr.htm

A couple of these nutjobs own an e-voting machine company. Always useful when it comes to getting your way short of a miracle:

http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v08n1/chrisre3.html

Read and be saved, America.

[Mr_Spock]

8. These nutjobs need to be dealt with - strategy is lagging here.

They need to be turned into the laughing stock they used to be.

[mitchum]

11. Agree with you. These loons USED to be rightly marginalized...

but due to something (inclusion? misguided tolerance?), they attained credibility. They are now revealing themselves for what they are. They certainly deserve mockery and derision, but that is not enough. They must be stopped.

[Joanne98]

9. I tell you the more I find out about the fundies........

The more shocked I get. I've had this feeling that the pro-life movement was actually pro-white life but it's really hard to prove. Well the other day a new study of birth rates came out and guess what. the only group in the country who's birth rate increased was white evangelical Christians. The black birth rate went down the most because of welfare reform which the fundies lobbyied for. It was real interesting.

[seabeyond]

10. i agree. i think this is fundamental (lol lol lol) in stopping

this forward motion of right wing. i expected more embracing from nation of a whole to go after this and am incredibly disappointed how as a nation we have not called them on it.

gonna say again, i am smack in the middle of this. with the school my kids go to is the school these fundies want to create nation wide, getting rid of public school. start our own brainwashing schools for the young like they do in hte poor of the middle east

thurs, 6 year old in first grade. teacher told class the children that go to public school are ungodly kids and wont go to heaven

i told son, what about all those kids that go to church every week, and are just too poor to afford a private school

chapel on thurs, was to talk to the kids not about jesus, but about how good bush is a good christian man led by spirit. he works so hard........yada yada yada and needs our support

this is what is going on in these groups.

one more example, my oldest in 4th grade told seven he was for kerry. all but one for bush. the only one for kerry, because he wants to be just like son. three of the 6 told son kerry was not a christian

yes.....this is a huge in what this election is about

i want them called too. full scale attack on religion. a friend pointed out a church by her new house today, i told her, i am disgusted with church and religion, after three years, i have gone to being disgusted with religion. i wasnt like this, i didnt believe this. this is what i am seeing of the people

[madfloridian]

13. Well, Dean said he was tired of listening to fundamentalist preachers.....

And everybody in the party said shhh.....hh.

He has tried to tackle the issue several times, but there is such a fear of offending real Christians.

We left our Southern Baptist Church because of its support for the Iraq war from the pulpit. We know what it is like. We had a neighbor tell us the election did not matter because Bush was chosen by God.

[thecrow]

14. This morning in my mom's church

the pastor was praying for "god to watch over the pResident, because he is a godly man and that his faith was leading this country, and that he should hold fast to that faith" (what ahppened to praying in general for our country's leaders?)
and then later (again while praying) he mentioned b*sh's "opponent" in the upcoming election saying he (Kerry, I presume..?) had a lot of ideas for this country but that he (the pastor) doubted he had any ideas, or that any ideas of his (Kerry's) would come to fruition.
!!!!!!!!!!!
What a weird way to pray and what a bunch of partisan horse****!!!
All this while the congregation had their eyes closed!
Naturally, this is a fundie way of subverting the congregation to these b*sh beliefs without ACTUALLY coming out and saying it, since it was in the prayers. But I think I did hear him say something in his sermon as well. After the first "prayer" I lost interest in anything else he was talking about.

[mitchum]

15. That type of partisan politicing is exactly why these grifters and...

lunatics need to lose their tax dodge status. And these same people have the teremity to screech about "welfare queens" Who do they serve? The welfare king of kings? Eliminating the tax dodge would go a long ways toward getting some of the conmen out of Godco, Inc. I believe their book of magical tales says something about seperating the sheep from the goats and the wheat from the chaff.