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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:35 PM
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Fox News just mentioned the Bogus Bush Flyer
during the news recap at the half hour.

I was flipping thru channels, and saw it.

They said something to the effect that the DNC was going on the attack over Bush's claims in the flyer that he was in the Air Force.
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Protected Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:36 PM
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1. Sounds like more Drudge reporting to me (NM)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:42 PM
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3. I'm sorry, I don't understand your post
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:47 PM
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5. This is up on Sludge.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:38 PM
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2. gee- little ole du
broke the story first-take that freerepublic....
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:46 PM
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4. I saw it too earlier. They said it is all bogus and
had Barnes' daughter on calling her dad a liar. I flipped by and saw about 2 minutes and they covered all this stuff. I sure hope the DNC has a lot more ammo than just the old flyer.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:48 PM
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7. of course they said it was bogus
but if you followed the relevations, it most definitely is not.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:59 PM
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9. I know but if we can't get the stupid Media to point that out it isn't
going anywhere. I just hope they focus on some of the additional information that questions Chimpy's record but doesn't require anything from the 60 Minutes memos.

There are so many other areas to go after Shrub and they just talk about the friggin documents and Barnes and the superiors that now say they aren't real.

How about bringing up the US World and News Report questions?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x820408

The whole point is to damage Chimpy's credibility so we need to get the focus on him and off of the messengers.

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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:14 PM
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14. I think that they are
talking about the CBS documents and Barnes' statement. According to what I read this morning in the NYT they have had experts look at the documents and of course, they cannot agree if they are fake or not. Soooooo, here comes the bushies with their endless smear organization jumping all over the Kerry Campaign for this. I thought it was the Pentagon that released them? And CBS revealed them - how does that add up to Kerry Campaign?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:07 PM
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12. DU has the flyer, and DU isn't the DNC...
as usual, Drudge got it wrong, lol.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:47 PM
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6. Yes but does the typeface of that flier match?
Just getting ready for the freeper response.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:52 PM
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8. hey, you!!!
:hi:
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:59 PM
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10. I'm confused
What's the back story here?

I know that Bush claimed he was in the Air Force during his campaign for congress in 1978. See page 23 of The Lies of George W. Bush.

The mention of Barnes on the next page is interesting in light of his recent confession.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:14 PM
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13. David Corn reported on this in The Nation's "Capital Games," 08/24/2004:
http://www.thenation.com/capitalgames/index.mhtml?bid=3&pid=1704

In 1978, Bush, while running for Congress in West Texas, produced campaign literature that claimed he had served in the US Air Force. According to a 1999 Associated Press report, Bush's congressional campaign ran a pullout ad in the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal that declared he had served "in the US Air Force and the Texas Air National Guard where he piloted the F-102 aircraft."

Bush lost that congressional race, but twenty-one years later, the AP questioned him about the ad. The news outlet had a good reason to do so. Bush had never served in the Air Force. He had only been in the Air National Guard. But when AP asked Bush if he had been justified in claiming service in the Air Force, Bush, then the governor of Texas and a presidential candidate, said, "I think so, yes. I was in the Air Force for over 600 days." Karen Hughes, his spokeswoman, maintained that when Bush attended flight school for the Air National Guard from 1968 to 1969 he was considered to be on active duty for the Air Force and that several times afterward he had been placed on alert, which also qualified as active duty for the Air Force. All told, she said, Bush had logged 607 days of training and alerts. "As an officer ," she told the AP, "he was serving on active duty in the Air Force."

But this explanation was wrong. Says who? The Air Force. As the Associated Press reported, "The Air Force says that Air National Guard members are considered 'guardsmen on active duty' while receiving pilot training. They are not, however, counted as members of the overall active-duty Air Force.

Anyone in the Air National Guard is always considered a guardsmen and not a member of the active-duty Air Force, according to an Air Force spokeswoman in the Pentagon. A National Guard member may be called to active duty for pilot training or another temporary assignment and receive active-duty pay at the time, but they remain Guard members."
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:03 PM
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11. Here's what FAUX does.
Briefly mention the flyer (15 sec) and then spend 2 minutes "reporting" on the "forgeries." It's how they always operate; a kernel of truth and a bushel of lies.
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