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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:24 PM
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What's the death count?
Edited on Sun Sep-12-04 10:38 PM by lwfern
If we made a list of deaths, plus at risk of deaths, because of Bush, what would it look like?

Killed US soldiers in Iraq: http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/">1,009

US soldiers in Iraq on life support?:

Non US Coalition soldiers in Iraq: http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/">131

Iraqi civilians: http://www.iraqbodycount.net/">11,000 - 14,000

AIDS victims who are assessed as dead or dying specifically because of Bush abstinence only policies:

Lung damage because of being sent prematurely back to NYC after 9/11:

Lost jobs and therefore lost health care, and are critically ill or dead because they didn't get preventative care:

etc.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:26 PM
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1. 11,000 - 14,000 dead bodies in Iraq
Edited on Sun Sep-12-04 10:27 PM by goodhue
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:30 PM
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2. I think this would be a good stratagy. It brings the horror home
This would make a good bilboard along major roads in swing states.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:34 PM
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3. We need a road map out of Iraq . . .
www.RoadmapOutofIraq.org

A Roadmap Out of Iraq: Six Signposts to Iraqi Sovereignty, Security

A Principled And Responsible Withdrawal From Iraq

Despite the ceremonial transfer of power in Iraq that took place two days ahead of schedule, the US occupation of Iraq is not over.
- US troops and bases remain in Iraq under Administration and Pentagon, not Iraqi or UN, authority.
- The Administration continues to control Iraqi reconstruction funds.

The presence of US troops in Iraq is incitement to insurgency, and most Iraqis believe that the violence will depart with US troops. Since security in Iraq starts with sovereignty, not vice versa, we can expect the violence in Iraq to increase.

According to the most recent polls of the Washington Post and MSNBC, Americans are already solidly behind full, Iraqi economic and political sovereignty, and that 70% of the public believes that the invasion and occupation of Iraq is unjustified. We are divided only on the conditions under which US troops are brought home, and how soon.

We can clear the path to bring US troops home this year if we can provide an alternative exit strategy that holds fast to our core principles, meets the American people in their concerns and values, and accounts for the political and logistical realities of getting US troops out of Iraq, and UN peacekeepers - especially from Arab and/ or Muslim nations - in.

We can create enough political will in the public, in our political officials, and in at least one of the Presidential Campaigns to shift the course of US policy, and put American troops and corporations on the road out of Iraq.

In so doing, we can not only help to decide the President for the next four years, but his policies, by advancing our principles and Peace Platform policy goals through the vehicle of the road map out of Iraq.

It will take all the passion, commitment, compassion and hope that each one of us can muster to make this happen. But, given the current rule of war, terror and repression, let’s take this chance together!

Six Signposts to Iraqi Sovereignty and Ending the Occupation

Secure a UN Security Council Resolutions that:

1. Places all foreign troops in Iraq immediately under UN mandate and defines their mission as a peacekeeping force. (International Cooperation)

2. Provides for the rotation of foreign troop commitments to the peacekeeping force in order to replace US troops by a specified date (end of 2004); (International Cooperation)

3. Provides for the UN oversight of free elections, and grants the elected government of Iraq full power to order the departure of UN peacekeepers and foreign bases from their lands. (Human Rights and Rule of Law)

4. Places reconstruction budgets under the sole control of Iraqi ministries and local councils, and ensures that contracts go to Iraqi companies and workers first. (Economic Justice)

5. Establishes the power of the elected government of Iraq to renegotiate and dissolve any contracts brokered by the occupying power or its appointees, the interim councils. (Economic Justice)

6. Commits the US, UK and its “coalition of the willing” to provide long-term, financial support from their own budgets for Iraqi reconstruction. (International Cooperation and Rule of Law)


www.RoadmapOutofIraq.org
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:43 PM
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4. The arsenic ones?
http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lbusharsenic.htm talks about 13 million people at risk of deadly diseases from arsenic exposure. Those aren't from Bush, though, are they? Those are people at risk because of exposure they received at the lower levels before Bush increased it, if I understood the article correctly.

Any clue how to quantify it?
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:29 PM
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5. Here's another reliable daily site.
Broken into details if needed:

http://icasualties.org/oif/
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