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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:11 PM
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I converted a Bush voter today.
I came in to work at our bookstore as soon as my last class ended today, and not long afterwards a 'regular' customer came in. This lady is an extremely nice woman, but she is a Republican to the core, although of the paleo-con variety. She is a former precinct committeman, vice-chair of the county's Republican Party and the mother of a Republican circuit judge. Any way...

As I said, Nancy is a nice person, extremely kind and gracious; as soon as she saw that it was me behind the desk, she came over to tell me how sorry she was about my nephew's death, and to please convey her sympathies to my sister and brother-in-law. I said I would do so and then, just from her body language, I sensed that she might be willing to talk further about Carlito's death.

"Nancy," I said quietly," you know what the most tragic part about his death is? It's that it need never have happened." Although she replied "How do you mean?", I noticed that she had nodded her head in agreement. I continued quietly, but earnestly.

"Nancy, Carlito is the same age as your grandson, Brandon. They went to school together, I understand". She nodded again. "Carlito died for a lie, Nancy. President Bush told us--- assured us--- that Saddam Hussein had WMDs, and he didn't mince or hedge his words in any way that I recall. Dr. Blix from the UN didn't agree, the CIA didn't agree, the DIA didn't agree, but we still invaded Iraq because President Bush told us saddam had WMDs. It's been 18 months since we invaded, Nancy, and not one shred of evidence has ever been discovered that Saddam Hussein had WMDs when President Bush made up his mind to invade Iraq. Carlito died for a lie, Nancy." She nodded again, and I could see the tears welling up in her eyes. I handed her the Kleenex box, and went on.

"I know I'll never make a Democrat out of you, Nancy, so I won't even try. Go ahead and work for the county Republican candidates, the state ones, for Congressman Johnson and even Dr. Keyes, but please, don't vote for the man who sent my nephew to die, and who could wind up sending your grandson to die, too. Please, Nancy." At this last, I reached over and took her hand in both of mine, and looked her right in the eye. She didn't look away, and quietly she put her other hand over mine.

"I've never voted for a Democrat for President in my life, Tony, and I'm 74 years old, but I'll do it this one time. I'm a mother, just like Rosie (my sister) is, and I can't imagine anything more terrible than having to bury your child, unless it was knowing that he died for no good reason." She hugged me, and when we broke off I stuck out my hand and asked, "Shake on it?", and she shook my hand, and smiled. We had a deal.

You don't need to be shrill, folks; if anything, being quiet, respectful and earnest when you make your case is likely to get you much, much further. We won't 'flip' them all, but we can flip some of them, maybe just enough to make a critical difference in November.

:)
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:14 PM
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1. Tony, you are amazing
What a great post. Thank you.

So sorry about Carlito. Be sure your sister and her family know we appreciate his dedication to his country and his sacrifice. :hug:
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:15 PM
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2. Thank you.
I'm not really amazing, just an ordinary guy who believes in 'the power of one'. We all have that power.

:hug:
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:16 PM
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3. DUers...saving one soul at a time!
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:23 PM
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7. That's how we have to do it.
I know we tend to demonize all Republicans here, and i'm guilty of doing it myself; sadly, I think we tend to forget that there are still decent men and women in the Republican party. Those are the people we need to reach out to, because deep down in that 'private place' we all have inside of us, they know something is badly wrong with their party, and something deeply flawed in the man who leads it.
:hi:
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:16 PM
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4. Oh my gosh! That is really moving. Bless your heart.
Sorry about your nephew. My condolences.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:24 PM
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8. Thank you.
:hug:
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liberal_in_GA Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:37 PM
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14. Bless you and your family
Thanks for sharing that story. :hug:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:17 PM
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5. i'm tearing up....
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:42 PM
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27. Me too. Beautiful job, but under SUCH unbelievably sad circumstances.
You have provided a MOST fitting tribute to your nephew's memory. Maybe the best one of all. We've GOT to get these bastards OUT so that MORE of our children aren't sacrificed on bush's altar of greed and stupidity!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:22 PM
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6. Hurray for you
And hurray for Nancy, too. With reasonable Republicans on our side, we can't lose.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:25 PM
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10. Decent Republicans *do* still exist.
Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 03:26 PM by Cuban_Liberal
3 cheers for Nancy, and I'd be willing to bet she converts a few more on her own before Nov. 2nd.

:hi:
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:24 PM
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9. My nephew is 19, he goes in November to Bagdad, I'm so against
this war. I think the worst part would be because it's such a war about profits and Cheney/Bush only cared about the oil. It's so obvious they don't care about humanity, otherwise, we'd be liberating Sudan. I could bare Reagan, I could bare other Presidents, but I just can't bare one who was elected by a court system that he claims he hates and then sends children to die. He will never be my President, Bush will always be a black mark on democracy and he'll be the only person who was ever appointed by a court system, it'll never happen again, America won't stand for it. America united will show the world and the Bush regime, that we are not going to have the court systems determine our presidents, that's for the PEOPLE to decide. END this war! We've got to get a responsible person in office to bring our children home.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:33 PM
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12. It wasn't JUST the oil, though that is not to be ignored. I'm sure a lot
Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 03:34 PM by Mayberry Machiavelli
of it had to do with the strategic significance of us "owning" a colony in the middle of the Middle East from which we could attack Iran/Syria etc. with new military bases, and the strategic significance of demonstrating our willingness to accomplish our goals with violent means like this. None of which I agree with either.

But most assuredly it had nothing to do with WMD's.

Wolfowitz said while there were many justifications for military action, "For bureaucratic reasons we settled on one issue – weapons of mass destruction – because it was the one reason everyone could agree on."

By the way, nice job, Cuban Liberal. You are a good soul.
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floda Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:32 PM
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11. Excellent
Well done :bounce:
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:56 PM
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21. Thank you.
:)
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:34 PM
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13. excellent...keep it up
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:39 PM
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15. She may have second thoughts....
before Nov. 2nd, especially if she talks it over with her goper friends...They will re-convince her to vote for Bush. I hope that she does vote for Kerry but I wouldn't count on it even if she said she would.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:51 PM
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19. I don't think she'll back away.
:)
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:39 PM
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16. ood for you! - I really pissed one off.
A rino that I work with blew up at me because I was slamming his candidate.
I just let him go and said sorry you are so close minded.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:45 PM
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17. kick
:dem:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:50 PM
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18. That is amazing.
I'm sure your nephew is proud of you.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:52 PM
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20. Good job, Tony.
I'm sorry it took the death of your loved one to accomplish it, but you did a good thing.

Thanks for sharing this story. It's a good one.

FSC
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:57 PM
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22. You're amazing
It goes to show that one quiet conversation can make a difference. I'm so sorry about Carlito.

:hug:
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:59 PM
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23. I am so sorry your nephew had to be the one to win her over but he will be
remembered for having done all he could to make the world a better place. You can say the same for yourself.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:07 PM
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26. Thank you.
:)
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HarveyBriggs Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:01 PM
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24. You saw a telling crack in her facade.
It's right here:

"This lady is an extremely nice woman, but she is a Republican to the core ..."

Nice and Republican don't go together any more.

Nice people don't vote Republican any more.

I wish it were different. And deep down, I think that is how you flipped her.

Good job. Keep finding nice people who have yet to understand.

Harvey Briggs
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:26 PM
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29. Good point.
:)
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:01 PM
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25. I Can't be that civil
I am glad someone can be because if one of my kids (4 and 2) ever go to fight for this country under the circumstances these kids are I would not survive. I feel sick every single day that we are there and they are dying for nothing!
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:50 PM
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28. God Bless You
Thank you for a tremendously inspiring and heartwrenching story.
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