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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:08 PM
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URGENT: National Security Cabinet Needed to take target off Kerry's Back.
National Security is the decisive battleground of ’04 campaign. Poll internals show that Kerry is now loosing even the women vote because of “Security” concerns. Efforts in other areas are skirmishes that will not decide the outcome.

However, it seems that no matter what facts are brought forward to boost John Kerry’s national security image they will be quickly morphed into some perverse “flip-flop” by some Rovian sequence of lies and distortion of Kerry’s Senate voting record.

The solution: confuse the enemy with multiple targets. A major summit which gives prominence to members of a National Security team that includes a few craggy national leaders with recognized and respected credentials. Kerry needs people like:

Gary Hart, Senator and co-chair of Hart/Rudman U.S. Commission on Nation Security.

Wesley Clark, General, NATO Supreme Allied Commander

William Perry, Phd, Secretary of Defense (Clinton)

Bob Kerrey, Gov. Nebraska, Senator, Vice-Chairman of Select Committee on Intelligence, Member of 9-11 Commission.

Zbigniew Brzezinski, Phd, National Security Advisor (Carter).

He needs these folk to walk in and out of “supposed” meetings with him into hard-hitting press conferences on topics from Iraq, to Russia, to North Korea, to 9-11, to Nuclear proliferation, to Abu Ghraib, to Intelligence Reform.

They need to do this for perhaps a full week, until the public get the message that they will be safe in a Kerry administration and Rove is faced with trying to smear a whole bunch of people.


"Terror, Terror" is Kerry's rubicon. He has to cross it to win, but he cannot cross it alone.
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:16 PM
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1. the "target on Kerry's back?" -- you want us to dance to freeper tunes?
No, thanks, I plan to dance on freeper campaign's graves on Nov. 3rd.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:59 PM
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4. Are you whistling in the dark. Haven't you heard that Kerry is
20 points in negative re. "would you trust re war on terror" also
"with new international incident" etc.

This turns reality upside down. But it is the result of the ongoing
VetSmear and endless Rove manuevers, before during and after the RNC.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:20 PM
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2. I would hand carry your list of respected candidates
to Kerry and beg him to follow your recommendation if he came here to GA.

In other words, I agree. :thumbsup:
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Raya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:38 PM
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3. Anything to Keep John Edwards from trying to talk tough - esp. on War
Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 05:04 PM by Raya
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:20 PM
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21. Stop. Now. WTF?? Why bother to fight the Rethugs, when it's
so gratifying (for some) to denigrate ourselves.

Go fucking figure.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:35 PM
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5. Hope Kerry folk are watching evening news: Iraq and Terror is going
to be front and center in the mind of the "undecided" on only
because the don't read, and "the economy and insurance reform"
don't provide hot video.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:26 AM
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8. Morning News is the same. Kerry has to squarely face the War.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:28 PM
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6. The REALLY GOOD Guys Probably don't want to get SLIMED by Rove.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:39 PM
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7. NO! I think Kerry just doesn't know how much he needs National Security
credibility. He knows too much. But the "undecided voter" doesn't
believe it.

Wake up Senator!
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Raya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:30 AM
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9. Terry Mac launching AWOL attack. But, if docs are forgeries this will fail
terribly.

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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:28 AM
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10. Needed Kick.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:36 AM
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11. Kerry can take care of himself, unlike some of the names in your list
William Perry, Phd, Secretary of Defense (Clinton)

Bob Kerrey, Gov. Nebraska, Senator, Vice-Chairman of Select Committee on Intelligence, Member of 9-11 Commission.

Zbigniew Brzezinski, Phd, National Security Advisor (Carter).


Perry: when he left DOD he got in trouble for taking some classified papers with him that he was not authorized to have.

Kerrey: self-admitted war criminal.

Big Z: the architect of the Afghan mujahideen "resistance" in the Afghan-Soviet War. Brzezinski is the spiritual "father" of the Taliban and Osama bin Laden.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:46 AM
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13. Kerry needs Strong NS Leaders who can HIT HARD and Take Hits.
Doesn't need either novices or feel-good diplomatic types.
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 06:11 PM
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18. Thank you
Big Z: the architect of the Afghan mujahideen "resistance" in the Afghan-Soviet War. Brzezinski is the spiritual "father" of the Taliban and Osama bin Laden.

Hey, what are we gonna do about those Russkies? I know! Let's mire those damned commies in an unwinnable war. That'll show 'em. What about the fate of the people of Afghanistan? Yeah, well... whatever.

Brzezinski is a smart guy; you've got to give him that. But he's scary as hell.

http://www.islandhosting.com/~contempo/library/wtc/brzezinski.html
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 10:52 PM
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22. Yes Zbig is scarily tough minded. That's the image Kerry has to project.
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 02:10 AM
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24. That kind of "tough" is Bush's MO
No thanks. Kerry can be tough without getting involved in precipitating wars for political or financial gain without regard for human rights.

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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:37 AM
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12. I think that's a great idea
Show the voters that we have a strong, competent team that's ready to go the moment Kerry takes office.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:50 AM
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14. I agree with your idea, but don't agree with your choices.
I'd rather see some other people in those slots -- some of yours carry certain baggage.

I suggested last week that Kerry name a several-person special envoy to bring reconciliation with our allies and mend what Bush has torn asunder.

I also think he should name some of his people. Hart is a good idea. I don't like Kerrey -- think he can't be fully trusted by Dems. He could seize the news cycle for at least one day. I just hope to God the picks are good.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 03:04 AM
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15. My list is some of those already giving Kerry advice (among many) and who
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 03:06 AM by WiseMen
I could imagine DELIVERING HARD BLOWS TO BUSH and taking a few bullets from Rove. Only Zbig is not a know advisor. But Kerry
has been reluctant to CHOOSE and put forward a fixed set
of official National Security surrogates.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:42 PM
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17. okay...
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 05:42 PM by grasswire
...Wes Clark A+, but Zbiegniew I think is seen as a relic of the past, and Kerrey has too many known negatives.

I still push the idea of announcing a special high-level envoy team to make reconciliation with all of our allies and seek cooperation. George Mitchell, Jimmy Carter, and someone else, perhaps.

Get with it, Kerry team! Carpe diem! Make news!
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:10 PM
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19. I get your point. My Goal was different -- a tough team to go after Bush
policy and put forward Kerry policy on Iraq and Terror and who
could stand up to Rove Smears.
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Doohickie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 11:22 PM
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23. I love Jimmy Carter
But he is associated with Iran hostages. Use him in the administration, but not in the campaign.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:36 PM
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16. Craig Crawford on Imus makes same point: Kerry needs NAMES out there
officially as his National Security team to give some confidence
to those moms that have been scared by the Repub about his
record.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:14 PM
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20. an excellent idea, Wisemen ...
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 08:15 PM by Pepperbelly
Make sure that Holbrooke, Jay Rockefeller, Biden, and Bill Clinton participate.

I am less sure about Berger. They really smeared him and the favorable resolution was buried on the obit page in most papers.
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