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Scorpious_Maximus Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:05 PM
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OLBERMAN SLAMS FREEPTARD!

On now!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:06 PM
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1. Keith is such a friggin stud. Nobody else does this but him.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:47 PM
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39. nice to see him outted
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:06 PM
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2. THAT KICKED ASS
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:07 PM
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3. "gee, do I smell a rat?" n/t
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:07 PM
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4. Jeez-thanks for all the information, guys.
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:08 PM
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9. He sleuthed some info about "Buckhead"
That's the FR identity of the person who had the website which refuted the documents about Bush only two hours after they were referenced on CBS. He identifies himself as a lawyer from the Atlanta area who is prominant in Republican legal circles.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:07 PM
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5. Details? nt
nt
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:07 PM
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6. elaborate, haiku style for the cube maggots.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:07 PM
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7. What did he say?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:09 PM
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10. A freeper who actually was cited in a William Safire article
is the guy who started all the font bs. They referred to his on-line profile and connections to pubs.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:07 PM
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8. I live in Atlanta and I'd love to know who this guy is
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:09 PM
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11. If you find out, DU mail me the info...
n/t
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BlueNomad Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:11 PM
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12. TELL US
NOT NEAR A TV .. please let us know what he said...
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:15 PM
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14. I'm not good at this, but I'll try...
Basically, it was kind of "which conspiracy theory, if any, do you believe, and which campaign is behind it?"

Looking at IBM-gate, fonts, etc...what kind of person would scheme to fake these documents? and why would any campaign risk a scandal (ie, being busted for faking documents) so close to an election?

Catch the repeat tonight.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:14 PM
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13. This is exactly what the media needs to be doing.
Investigating who is behind the forgery claims. It didn't just originate on blogs and gain momentum, it was a concerted effort to discredit CBS and the memos, and change the subject from Bush's AWOL.

There were a group of people involved from the very beginning, including the document expert who seemed ready to declare them a forgery within an hour's notice.

Who are these people, and who, specifically, are they working for?

Thank you Kieth!!
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:19 PM
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15. well put.
WORKERS:
you might link to MSNBC.com\Hardball

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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:24 PM
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16. Olbermann said that "Buckhead,"
the Freeper who questioned the authenticity of the documents within two hours of their release last Wed., is a Republican Atlanta lawyer who will, as I understand it, BE ON THE TEAM THAT WILL GO TO THE "FRONT LINES" IF THERE IS AN ELECTION DEADLOCK AGAIN on behalf of the Republicans.

Keith said not only are that connection and the speed of the document attack fishy, but the fact that copies of the documents were immediately disseminated to many media outlets beyond CBS -- I thought Keith implied the White House was involved in that, but I'll have to review my videotape.

Keith was clearly implying that the White House wanted to take the heat off the AWOL issue by steering the focus off the MESSAGE and onto the FONTS IN THE MEMOS.

Go Keeeeeiiiittthhhh!
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Scorpious_Maximus Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:35 PM
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17. They are going nuts over there
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1215056/posts


Help! Did anybody just see Keith Olbermann talking about Buckhead??
http://www.msnbc.com ^ | September 13, 2004

Posted on 09/13/2004 5:10:52 PM PDT by Howlin

Did anybody just hear Keith Olberman talking about Buckhead???




They're so fucking stupid, they think it's a good thing!


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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:37 PM
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18. They call us DUmmies.
Gee, I never would have seen that one coming. Came in totally off the radar. Incredibly original. You know, the freepers' cleverness has made me a Republican. Goodbye, all. Go Bush!
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:08 PM
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33. ROFL!
Ok that made me laugh.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:39 PM
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20. What did O'Reilly do to piss them off?
from freeptardland:

To: Howlin
I didn't see that .. but I just got done watching O'Rielly pretty much insult us on the internet

BLOW IT OUT YOU EAR O'RIELLY!!

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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:44 PM
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31. ROTF!!!
To: xm177e2
That's very funny.
Hope Buckhead sues for slander and impugning his good name.



32 posted on 09/13/2004 5:18:40 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Watch for a CBS employee in a trench coat going by DeepWord.....)


Yeah, I'd be insulted too if someone called me a Republican.
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Scorpious_Maximus Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:06 PM
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23. Scrubbing


Well, Buckhead is an expensive section of Atlanta.

Although, going through their stuff is considerably tedious; I conslude "buckhead" may be an attorney. Young - Late 20's to Early 30's.

Informed on pop culture and supports the "federalist" position.

Will post more if it comes up.

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Scorpious_Maximus Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:16 PM
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25. More

Age could be older. Later 30's - If this is true.

Hope it helps someone in Atlanta identify this guy.



Lindsey Graham, a real Senator (does his job!)
Posted by Buckhead to visualops
On News/Activism 09/04/2003 8:10:46 PM PDT · 16 of 18

It is a very nice letter. When I was right out of college working for a Congressman I wrote about ten of them a day just like this one. We had a printed form called a buck slip. When we got a letter on an issue in the purview of a particular department, we would address the form to the Congressional liaison office for that department and enclose the constituent letter. We would send a letter to the constituent telling them we had done this, and would follow up when we got the agency response. About 50% of what we handled, and this is back in 1981, could be boiled down to "Where's my check?" About 45% was issue oriented spam generated by interest groups - the same letter from every member of xyz association in our district on their pet bill. Those were sooo touching in their sincerity. About 3% was from certifiable nut balls, my specialty. And the rest were from thoughtful concerned citizens on issues of the day. One of the best was a letter protesting food stamp "cuts" (reductions in increases) that was written on a paper plate and delivered by the USPS. It was semi-literate, but had great passion, eloquence and brevity. Is this a great country, or what?




Yuk. I need a shower now.

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Scorpious_Maximus Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:24 PM
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26. Still More


Now it's a quest.



I had Don Wilkes for Criminal Law.


Who is Don Wikles?

Donald E. Wilkes, Jr. has been a law professor at the University of Georgia School of Law since 1971.

http://www.law.uga.edu/academics/profiles/wilkes.html


"Buckhead" attended UGA Law.


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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:58 PM
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32. Did you find Buckhead's post
WHere he says he recently attended a Bush-CHeney campaign meeting of lawyers for the purposes of possible litigation in the case of election irregularities?
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Scorpious_Maximus Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:26 PM
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37. Other thread - n/t
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:38 PM
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19. In related news, Keith is Playgirl Mag's sexiest broadcaster ...
... and he has chosen the New York Police and Fire Widows' and Children's Benefit Fund to receive the $2,500 that comes with the "honor."

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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:51 PM
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40. KO is a treasure
I say we adopt him here at DU--wait, I think we already have!
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:44 PM
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21. Novak wants CBS to reveal source; Olbermann helpless with disgust!
Keith just played the top soundbite of the day ... Robert Novak saying CBS should REVEAL ITS SOURCE of the documents. Haaaaaaaaaaa

Keith proceeded to take his glasses off and plop his forehead down on his desk! What a riot!
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:00 PM
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22. Al Hunt nailed Novak on this on Capital Gang . . .
NOVAK: I'd like CBS, at this point, to say where they got these documents from. They didn't get them from a CIA agent. I don't believe there was any laws involved. I don't think we'll have a special prosecutor, if they tell. I think they should say where they got these documents because I thought it was a very poor job of reporting by CBS. Why did CBS not go to the -- to Killian's family and get -- and ask them about it, as ABC did, and got these quotes, and they said they think they're phony documents -- I thought -- I thought that the "60 Minutes" thing by Dan Rather was a -- was a campaign operation, rather than an attempt to get to the bottom of the truth.

HUNT: Robert Novak, you're saying CBS should reveal its source?

NOVAK: Yes.

HUNT: You do? You think reports ought to reveal sources?

NOVAK: No, no. Wait a minute.

HUNT: I'm just asking.

NOVAK: I'm just saying in that case.

HUNT: Oh.

NOVAK: I think -- I think it's very important. If this is a phony document, the American -- the people should know about it.

HUNT: So in some cases, reporters ought to reveal sources.

NOVAK: Yes.

HUNT: But not in all cases.

NOVAK: That's right.

HUNT: OK.


Al Hunt baited and taunted Novak with a very sarcastic tone that the transcript doesn't fully capture. He did a great job in exposing Novak's hypocrisy.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:30 PM
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28. I've said it before and I'll say it again
Novak is a fucking disgrace and the only greater disgrace is that any "reputable" news outlet would employ him.

At least Olbermann has the common decency to point out what an ass douchebag for liberty is.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:52 PM
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41. And the caption under Novak's sound bite said. . .
"Pot. . . Meet Kettle!" Priceless!
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:18 AM
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47. Daily Show Douchebag Award
Jon Stewart had the same reaction on tonight's show. It was GREAT!

If anyone has a link to clips from Monday's Keith Olberman show, please pass it on. Anything but a direct link to msnbc.com, which totally freezes up my computer with some kind of data download any time I try to access the site.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:09 PM
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24. and..........
....Craig Crawford called Keith's theory that Rove conducted a dirty trick plausible. He said the possibility of a double agent planting forged memos exists.

(We know the memos are real -- but it's interesting to see a talking head say on TV that such a dirty trick could come from the WH.)

It was a really interesting segment!

And that freeper Buckhead. Ha! That'll teach him to post info on a bulletin board telling of his association to the GOP. He's part of some inside activism in Atlanta.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:40 PM
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30. If admitting to "dirty tricks" is the only way to "discredit" the
memos, then aren't the rovians still guilty of fraud, lying, etc.? Isn't that kind of like saying, "Madam, you can't collect your husband's million-dollar insurance policy because he didn't die a natural death. I know he didn't, because I killed him!"
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:15 PM
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35. If they are a forgery
They didn't come from the Kerry campaign, which hasn't uttered a peep about them. The White House, interestingly, hasn't challenged the memos' authenticity either.

The curious thing about the dog in the night is that it didn't bark.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:27 PM
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27. Which would be better for Kerry: Authentic memos that reiterate
what we already know about Bush-AWOL, or FORGED memos that are PROVEN to have come from operatives in the Bush-Cheney campaign, obviously trying to take focus away from the AWOL memo?
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:34 PM
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29. Depends on if and when the forgery is exposed
If it were, just before the election, it would KILL Bush. But you know the freepers would be ready with a list of countercharges to muddy the waters as much as they could. That's what they do.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:11 PM
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34. I know this is going to be a big DUH! for most of you
but I seriously wonder about the mental stability of people SO convinced something is a forgery when it clearly is not. Everything that has been put out has been debunked, for crying out loud. No one has proven them to be forgeries AT ALL.

God they need to get a grip. Although it is fun to watch their heads explode!

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:25 PM
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36. Thanks for saying that, Moonbeam.
I agree. Admittedly I toyed with the forgery idea for a while before Rather's Friday night slapdown, but I don't believe the forgery accusations have any credibilty whatsoever, and are now serving only as a litmus test of who is carrying Rove's water for him.
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Darby Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:36 PM
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38. www.martindale.com
This site is a listing of all (almost all) attorneys in the United States, especially those at big firms.

Could use this to get started on a list of lawyers at big law firms in Atlanta who have expertise in election law (or just litigation).

Cross-reference against those who went to Florida in 2000.

Check those who are licensed to appear before the 11th circuit.

Check those against Republican activists.

Shouldn't be too hard for any connected Atlanta attorney to figure out who this is.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 01:11 AM
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45. This whole forgery debate makes me feel really old...
because I remember IBM typewriters from the 70's and I know some were capable of "th" superscript and 1/2 spacing. Jeez, are these a bunch of adolescents in Freeperville? Or are they just too stupid to read an IBM manual from the time? Or compare the supposed "forged" documents with other "official" documents of the time?

And their trashing of Olberman...ONE newsperson doesn't toe the facist BushCo party line and the Freepers all get the vapors. What a bunch of wimps!
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restorefreedom Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:17 PM
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42. finally someone says the obvious...
that this is undoubtedly a Rovian move to take the attention away from the real issue.

Rove is a master at that.




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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:34 AM
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43. Rovian tactic- he DID do something similar in Texas
I don't know whether there are forgeries or not. I haven't had time lately, with deadlines and one of our calicoes passing to the beyond, I am wrecked. :cry:

The point on Olberman tonite was the fact that "Buckhead" got the "forgery debunking" out 2 HOURS after the story aired, suggesting some pre-planned move.
If they were not planted, perhaps Bushco had something ready to discredit/change the subject because they were in the loop somehow.. they sure got a heads up, to have response so quickly. I would like to get to the truth of that...

"How many rats do you smell?" was the exact quote. King Rat Rove was my first thought.

Then in the interview, the question was asked, laughingly...almost knowingly... "WHO would be dumb enough or diabolical enough to do something so risky as to plant a story for CBS to stumble on?" (paraphrase)
Now, most of you might know the Rove story in the Texas Governor race, when Rove was working for nixonian Bill Clements, on the eve of debates...Rove accused Dem Mark White of bugging his (rove's) office, and a big hubbub ensued which overhadowed the debates and white's lead, allowing Clements to come from behind to win.
This is covered in "Bush's Brain" and covered quite a bit by Wayne Slater and other's in Dallas Morning News at the time...good people had lives ruined because of him.
There is a good excerpt at this site---->
<http://www.hopkinsandcompany.com/Books/Bush's%20Brain.htm>

So, while I have no opinion on the docs, if Rove gets busted at some point for his sleazy ways, angels will surely sing.O8)
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Scorpious_Maximus Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:35 AM
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44. It was actually 19 minutes - Olberman missed the time differential
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 01:21 AM
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46. Please let him know that ! n/t
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