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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:20 PM
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Freepers question claims of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth
That got your attention, huh? Wouldn't it be helpful if it was true?

But, DUers question authenticity of Killian memos. That is true, and it's not helpful. Let the right-wing do its own dirty work.

Sorry for the deceitful subject.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:23 PM
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1. You know, most of them are not really DUers
they just play them on this board. Some are obvious but some are just now showing their true colors.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:29 PM
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2. Yeah, and they're getting desperate...like shrubby n/t
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:31 PM
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3. Agreed...I say the smeller's the feller.
:evilgrin:
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:32 PM
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4. What is with all these bullshit posts lately!
I's getting annoying.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:40 PM
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5. I'd prefer to be part of a group...
... that allows dissent and questions *everything*. *THAT's* what, as an aggregate, makes us better than them -- and why we'll win.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:42 PM
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6. Rove could have forged them
Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 11:42 PM by shockingelk
Really, just because it's indisputable it could be legit doesn't mean it is.

And not many people knew of the charges contained in them before the CBS docs.

The administration turned the Niger forgeries to their advantage ... Rove planted a bug on himself.

Who has benefited from the perception the facts that Bush was suspended and campaigned for someone instead of showing up for duty are all based on forgeries?
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:00 AM
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7. We win if we remain allied with the truth.
This isn't some damned game. The Swift Boat guys were bullshitting, and they got busted. They were attempting to deceive the American people.

If CBS is bullshitting, or got duped, then America needs to know that, too.

The Republicans are still somehow in this race because they are masters at picking the ant shit from the pepper. Asking the question "are the memos authethic" is the perfect foil for the real, uncontestable fact: that John Kerry served his country in Vietnam while the President, who claims he's a "war President," did not.

It's too bad they had the chance to ask that question. But now that it has been asked, it needs to be answered, and the Democrats need to align themselves on the honest side of the answer.

Because if we endorse dishonesty as a tool in our cause, we risk becoming every bit as ignorant, pliable, and untrustworthy as our opponents.

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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:09 AM
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8. Awww man....brilliant....you have the Rovian genes....
Perrfect.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:11 AM
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9. You hit upon an important difference between FReepers and DUers.
Edited on Tue Sep-14-04 12:11 AM by LoZoccolo
Sadly, you probably won't even read this message before the entire thread gets locked.
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zestfolly Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:13 AM
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10. Where the SBV leave and breathe.


I think we can all agree that this attack on John Kerry’s honor simply reeks with a horrible odor. Indeed, I’ve always said that an arse by any other name smells the same. In this case, the arse belongs to one Karl Rove, Senior Political Advisor to President Bush. You know how detectives look for the “smoking gun”? In the case of political dirty tricks, you look for the “smelly butt.”

http://journals.aol.com/happyb8888/MarciaEllenLifeAsItOughtToBe/entries/292
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zestfolly Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:20 AM
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11. Why the SBVs hate John Kerry.
The “Swift Boat Veterans for Truth” fall into this category. They and legions of fellow veterans refuse to accept that almost 59,000 comrades in arms died in vain because their government sent them to fight and die in a senseless war, a war that left thousands upon thousands of their comrades physically and psychologically maimed for life.

That is why they hate John Kerry.


http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=837
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