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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 04:51 AM
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Worldwide Poll (35 nations) shows world wants Kerry to win BIG!
Of all the polls that have been released recently, there is one that is so lopsided it makes this Presidential campaign look like a one-horse race.

Senator Kerry would win by a huge margin if the people questioned in this poll could vote in November. But of course they can't because the poll was carried out in 35 other countries around the world.


SNIP

Only three countries preferred Bush - Poland, Nigeria and the Philippines. In two others, India and Thailand, the public was split 50-50. But in Western Europe, America's traditional allies, only 10 per cent of Germans backed Bush. In France, it was 5 per cent. I cannot recall any other American Presidential election where world opinion was so one-sided.

full article: http://cbsnewyork.com/topstories/topstories_story_257080838.html

I told you India is like the third world America. Fuckers here think Bush is good coz he supports outsourcing. One of these days, if he wins, he's gonna outsource our asses to Guantanamo just coz we don't believe in HIS god. then we'll learn our lesson.
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mahenphx Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 05:00 AM
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1. Read this a few days ago...
and it's really revealing that all these other people around the world are more in touch than the ignorant sheep Bushies he's fleecing and killing for his buddies' benefit. Even the third world countries want him to go. They are all in agreement that he's a loose cannon that might explode near them next. It's going to take more than a single term of any president to repair the damage done by this one to our world image.
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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 05:07 AM
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3. dude...
3rd world countries are at the forefront of the ABB campaign. he's really gonna hurt us big with a 2nd term and nothing to lose.

even illiterate farmers know the dangers of bush at the helm of the globalization train, is what i believe. its the middle class which has got fat on american investments and big screen teevees that are oblivious to the danger.


anyway fuck bush, welcome to DU! :)
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Eurotrash Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 08:23 AM
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15. No, being middle-class does not matter.
Germany and France (the two W. European nations cited in the poll article) are overwhelmingly middle-class. Serious poverty is not really an issue here and most people live comfortable lives within their means, but there are also very few people making serious American-sized piles of money. Still, the Gemans and French go 90% and 95% respectively against Bush. Being reasonably well informed and have a few euros in your bank account are no reasons not to want Smirky thrown out of his squat.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 05:03 AM
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2. I have several Indian friends..
and they all support Kerry.

Please don't generalize.
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mahenphx Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 05:20 AM
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5. You're right...and with good reason.
They look at Bush's newest allies across their border and it worries them sick. Their governments on both sides have been flexing nuclear muscles and thumping their chests. The Indian citizen is worried that the U.S. has made undisclosed weapons deals with their 'good' friends who've sheltered Al-Quaeda and Taliban in the past and now are supposedly ruthlessly hunting them... with what promised reward?
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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 05:29 AM
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7. That's not a view that I would share...
... you know ever since the peace process started with Pakistan, people in both nations are warming up to each other. Although people still mistrust Pakistan (and there are a whole lot of lunatics who think we should nuke Pakistan), I think generally speaking people are suddenly realizing India and Pakistan are two artificial nations divided by an arbitrary line. We're one and the same. We even had one of the most rabid Pakistani mullahs visit India last year and he too said the same thing. So that's good.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 07:59 AM
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14. When I talk politics with my friends,
they mention that the Iraq war was a bad idea, the economy is suffering, health care costs are too high...all of the same things we talk about here on DU.

I've brought up Pakistan a few times, just to get some background and I've found there is no general concensus.

India is a complicated place from what I gather. After Sonia Ghandi was elected, I asked some friends what they thought, and again, they gave me complicated answers. There is a lot of open-mindedness.

I'm surprised by the polls showing people in India are 50% in support of Bush. I think it might simply reflect a general good will towards America, or perhaps some fear of the unknown. It's just one poll, though.
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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 08:55 AM
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16. general goodwill towards america...
i'll buy that. i think that is an important factor in 50% favoring *. if the people here really knew what i know abt * from visiting DU, i bet that 50% is gonna shrink to 15-20% of hardline muslim haters.
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 05:19 AM
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4. Stay away from this theme
The one thing that "Muricans" will not go for is "furiners" picking their President. UN troops training on Murican soil. The reason they be there is preparing to come to our house and take our guns away. Murican troops under a Furiners command. (Dimson got very close to that trap saying the troops in Iraq's activities would be controled by Baghdad and not Marine Generals.

Kerry campaign would never recover from opening that can of worms.
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mahenphx Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 05:27 AM
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6. No one said they're picking our next president ...
The discussion was about the erosion of world opinion of Bush and the American people by default and why Indians should be worried about a 2nd Bush term with Pakistan sucking up to him and what's in it for them.
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Polemonium Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 06:46 AM
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9. World opinion is unimportant?
A super majority of the world population hopes Bush is not re-selected. They are not picking the president, they are just hoping the supreme court doesn't pick shrub - again. Remind me of what the US population and the world population is again, then please explain to me why this is not relevant. I'd imagine a president who was embraced by most of the world would be something to put in the plus column. No no lets just keep all the things in the plus column under our hats, because no one can handle hearing them... and folks wonder how the country has drifted so far right.
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 06:55 AM
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10. World opinion is very important to you and me, but
Joe Sixpack doesn't exactly have the clarity of your point of view. I am remembering the raving all night show in the 90's, I think from a station in Cincinnati that truckers across the country could pick up almost in every state east of the rockies. Preached that UN crap, and they were listening to it just like it was gospel.

Boil Butt would have a field day with the topic.
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Polemonium Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 07:18 AM
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11. I think we've been giving up too easily for too long
The very idea that "preached that UN crap" is allowed to stand, is ridiculous. Yes I know we are here, and that more Americans than I like to admit feel this way. However, it is a simple point that the more people in the world dislike you, the more people (some fixed small percentage) become like extremists with greater incentive to hurt you.

There are a lot of simple points where the Democrats and other lefties are on the right side of the issues, on the side of truth, greater equity, and an improved way of life for the greater majority of Americans. The fact that we frequently shrug our shoulders in some defeatist recognition of the way things are, instead of talking about how to change these Murdoc et al. oversimplifications is at the least disheartening.

Were things like the civil rights movements etc. all just a dream, or is it still possible to dispel ridiculous ideas?
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Eagle_Eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 05:48 AM
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8. Like we didn't allready have reason enough to vote bush out
Keeping bush will only enrage the rest of the world even more against us
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 07:25 AM
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12. Too bad the world doesn't vote we only have the American people
to depend on and unfortunately compared to many other countries too many of our citizens don't care about what happens outside of the boundries of our own country.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 07:34 AM
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13. Could so many people in so many places be wrong?
I think not, my dear Watson.
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Dutch Courage Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 05:32 PM
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17. Why?
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