If they were forged, they were forged on a fairly complex system

[jmowreader]

These aren't normal fonts.

We've all noted the lowercase e's position with relation to the baseline. You can't do that with Word, but you can by going into the font in a font editor and raising the e.

You'd also need to create a few extra lowercase e's because you'd need to move them around a bit.

Would they go to the trouble? Ah fuck no. They wouldn't even think of it.

These documents are genuine.

[seabeyond]

1. i have seen the signature compared to other signatures

and i say it is the same person. he has a odd signature and would have to know what it looked like and be damn good to even get close to the signature. if it was just someone out of blue who had no info, they wouldnt know what to even try to get that signature and even then would be a hard one to copy

so............how did they get that on the page with different font

[jmowreader]

3. That's what scanners are for

Thing is, no two of your, or anyone else's, signatures are alike.

They would have had to scan one in at a very high resolution, fiddle with it some to make it look different, then place it on the page.

[seabeyond]

6. if i got more specific i would have pointed that out

that my signatures are never the same. but the slant is always the same. and the first letter of both names the same. the first name is generally pretty consistant but my last name, sometimes meat it is readable, a lot of times i dont care, just a line. i saw this with this signature. though they werent exact, it had the same slant and the k was consistant. also sometime he did initials, and sometimes name speeled out clearly and one was just a line

i buy the signatures

[Riddler]

4. The problem is they can't be verified without the originals....

and there are no originals. Here's my take on it:
This Bartlett guy who was the one who was supposed to have taken stuff out of AWOL's files when they were "sanitized" by AWOL's staff couldn't take the originals so he made copies of them. There would have been no need to "sanitize" the files if they didn't already have a good idea what was in them, so he couldn't take the originals because then AWOL's goons would have known they were missing. Instead, he made copies of them for his own records and let the goons have the originals. Now, since AWOL's gang knows there are no originals, and having thought they disposed of all evidence negative to the little asshole, they are saying they are forgeries knowing that the originals can never be produced to authenticate them. That's why they didn't mind releasing them to the press in the first place, because they knew the originals didn't exist, so they can call on CBS to provide them all they want and look like they're the good guys and Rather is the monster.

[Snivi Yllom]

5. bingo

Get the originals out and settle this thing once and for all. I for one don't want this to implode in October. Get it all out now.

[hughee99]

8. I thought the docs weren't in *'s military files

but in the Killian's personal files. Most people didn't seem aware that he kept personal files, so I'm not sure if *'s people knew to "sanitize" them. I do wonder about this, though. I keep personal files and records, I rarely type them, and I never feel the need to sign them, since they're for my own personal use. I think we're looking too hard to find a big conspiracy here, and I think all this crap in the media is helping * deflect the debate away from the real issues.

[zaj]

7. The Signature has been the one thing that keeps me doubting...

They are so wildly different that it makes me wonder...

I guess it's possible that a secretary signed one or the other of the docs for him. But I have a hard time accepting such dramatically different sigs are from the same person.

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. They are protecting the boy who provides them with tax cuts

a promised elimination of social security and medicare, an endless war, an end to environmental regulations on businesses, no attention to outsourcing.

They are very motivated to keep him in as president!