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MyUncle Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:05 PM
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Body Count "surprise" is unfolding now and the media might be helping.
I've noticed a shift in news reporting out or Iraq and Afghanistan in the past few days. The reports are referring to casualties, not US soldiers but total people dead and injured. When we count Iraqis and Afghans among the dead and wounded, the headlines and the story become much more impactful. The true story of the toll on human lives becomes apparent.

If the media stay on this course of reporting and if the situation in both countries gets hotter it will make for very messy media for Bushco.

I think the insurgency will become more intense as our election gets closer.

If the media continues the change from the focus on US to all casualties. I sense some changes in attitudes toward Bush.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:11 PM
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1. Well it's about time they showed the horror of *!
If people see the disaster of Bush, they will vote him out.
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MyUncle Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:17 PM
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3. Lead stories on NY Times and MSNBC
MSNBC - Deadly day in Iraq
Separate attacks on Iraq's police forces leave 59 people dead in Baghdad and Baqouba.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5949556/

NY Times - INSURGENCY
Bombing Kills 47 at Police Station in Iraqi Capital
By EDWARD WONG
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/15/international/middleeast/15iraq.html?ex=1095825600

Even Drudge is linking to story that focuses on total casualties
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040914/D853LCS00.html
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:13 PM
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2. Can B**hites count that high? Most people will see thank God
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:17 PM
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4. Yes, I almost fell out of my chair to hear CNN say...
...that the American strikes are killing LOTS of civilians!

I thought the globe had reversed polarity or something.

Of course, this came from their Bagdad reporter (whose name escapes me now) and he looked pretty shook up himself.

I really wonder how the American sheeple will take it. Unfortunately, I don't hold out much hope they will care, and I'm disgusted by that fact.
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MyUncle Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:33 PM
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5. I am not as pessemistic about the American people.
When we see large numbers of dead people in the headlines, it makes an impact. We all can relate to what 50 people, 200 injured means and it hits us in the gut.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:42 PM
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6. I sincerely hope you are right. Maybe I am less hopeful because
I live in Texas, and that has made me jaded to a certain extent.
I am working hard to not loathe some of my neighbors.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:42 PM
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7. The impression you get
from the administration and the media is that one must only be concerned about American losses. To possess any concern whatsoever for Iraqi civilian deaths is to be unpatriotic. It sickens me as well.
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:44 PM
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8. Thank you for posting that. I have also noticed a slight move
towards more truthfullness about Iraq. I think it is because things are getting so bad over there, it is getting impossible to keep the lid on. At least not as long as us faithful ones stick to the internet where we can find unfiltered news.

I heard Lindsey Graham tonight, ctiticizing the way things are going in Iraq. He was interviewed by Joe Scarborough, and was ALLOWED to say those things.

hmmm
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:45 PM
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9. If they keep doing this
Then it WILL make impact sooner or later, hopefully sooner rather than later. People MIGHT be able to rationalize losing one or two soldiers a day in the field of battle (not that we SHOULD be, not in this battle), but I think they will have issues with how many civilians are getting taken out by our own people and by the consequences of our actions.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:49 PM
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10. OK, so how do we get the flag-draped coffins on the air.
sorry, but it needs to be done. The media must put the antiseptic away and show the real story.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:49 PM
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11. They are effectively a 51s state.
does California get 100 billion dollars a year from the federal government?

They are our biggest welfare state.
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MyUncle Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:52 AM
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12. Keep the casualties (all of them) in the headlines.
Make sure everyone understands that PEOPLE are dying. Not just Americans...
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