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nodramamama Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:07 PM
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More in Latin-America consider themselves "socialist" than "capitalist" (Gallup)
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In only two of the 19 countries in Latin America surveyed in this Gallup poll, the majority of people of that particular country consider themselves "capitalist" than "socialist". This leads the Gallup organization to observe that Socialism there is not a dirty word:

In 2008, Gallup asked the following two questions in 19 countries in Latin America and the Caribbean:

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Nowadays, people in this country talk a lot about socialism and capitalism. How would you consider yourself? Would you say you are 1) more socialist than capitalist or 2) more capitalist than socialist?
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And how about this country these days? Would you say it is 1) more socialist than capitalist or 2) more capitalist than socialist?

By dividing the percentage of residents in each country who choose socialism by the percentage who choose capitalism, we get a single odds ratio describing the population's overall position and their view of their country's overall position. A ratio of 2.52 to 1, for example, means that residents are about 2½ times as likely to lean toward socialism as they are to lean toward capitalism. Figures below 1.0, on the other hand, imply that the population leans more toward capitalism than socialism overall. The same calculations were applied to residents' ratings of their country's position in the right column in the following table:



http://www.gallup.com/poll/113902/Opinion-Briefing-Latin-America-Leftists.aspx

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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:18 PM
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1. and that is why we like to fund coups and subvert the will of the citizens
of South and Central America. All the chatter about drugs and freedom is bullshit. The policy is to prop up those who "play ball" no matter what kind of regime they are otherwise operating under.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:21 PM
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2. This does not surprise me...
the history of Capitalism in Latin America is not particularly positive.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:25 PM
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5. There is no positive history of capitalism anywhere.
Socialism sounds good to me.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:27 PM
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7. Where has socialism been more effective than capitalism?
Not in Latin America, for sure.
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BanTheGOP Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:22 PM
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3. That is why...
...the republican party would not even EXIST in a sane world without the inherent criminal activity that has been its hallmark.

Capitalism, classism, and racism all goes hand in hand, and is a failed, utter disgrace to humanity. It must be destroyed, and we must socialize our economy and our society before we can get back into the good graces of the world.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:25 PM
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6. Look at Chile as an example of good, capitalist governing since 1990
I wish the rest of Latin America would emulate them.
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BanTheGOP Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 11:16 PM
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8. No disrespect intended, Colobo...
...but I disagree with your assessment that Chile is capitalist. Michelle Bachelet is representative of an excellent socialist democrat, with emphasis placed on wealth distribution to the people, as opposed to repressionist corporate policies so liked like Bush/Pinochet like goons. In addition, Chile's legislative branch is strongly, and permanently, to the left, a beacon of what the US should become, frankly.

Once the republican party is rendered impotent, we can hope to achieve what your country has already become.

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 11:24 PM
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9. The Chilean left is not really socialist- they have kept much of the Pinochet
economic policies in place, although the goverment is more involved in regulating and promoting social justice. Still, the Chilean "left" is more symbolic than real- symbolic in the sense that it still represents the break with right wing authoritarism from the Pinochet years- the right hasn't won an election since democracy returned. Still, the country remains to the right of most of Latin America when it comes to economic policy. A good balance, I'd say. This is what Wikipedia has to say about it:

"Chile has pursued generally sound economic policies for nearly three decades. The 1973-90 military government sold many state-owned companies, and the three democratic governments since 1990 have continued privatization, though at a slower pace. The government's role in the economy is mostly limited to regulation, although the state continues to operate copper giant CODELCO and a few other enterprises (there is one state-run bank). Chile is strongly committed to free trade and has welcomed large amounts of foreign investment. Chile has signed free trade agreements (FTAs) with a whole network of countries, including an FTA with the United States, which was signed in 2003 and implemented in January 2004. Over the last several years, Chile has signed FTAs with the European Union, South Korea, New Zealand, Singapore, Brunei, China, and Japan. It reached a partial trade agreement with India in 2005 and began negotiations for a full-fledged FTA with India in 2006. Chile conducted trade negotiations in 2007 with Australia, Malaysia, and Thailand, as well as with China to expand an existing agreement beyond just trade in goods. Chile hopes to conclude FTA negotiations with Australia and the expanded agreement with China in 2008. Negotiations with Malaysia and Thailand are scheduled to continue throughout 2008. The members of the P4 (Chile, Singapore, New Zealand, and Brunei) also plan to conclude a chapter on finance and investment in 2008.<6> The economic international organization the OECD agreed to invite Chile to be among four countries to open discussions in becoming an official member.<36>

High domestic savings and investment rates helped propel Chile's economy to average growth rates of 8% during the 1990s. The privatized national pension system (AFP) has encouraged domestic investment and contributed to an estimated total domestic savings rate of approximately 21% of GDP. However, the AFP is not without its critics, who cite low participation rates (only 55% of the working population is covered), with groups such as the self-employed outside the system. There has also been criticism of the inefficiency and high costs due to a lack of competition among pension funds. Critics cite loopholes in the use of pension savings through lump sum withdraws for the purchase of a second home or payment of university fees as fundamental weaknesses of the AFP. The Bachelet administration plans substantial reform, but not an overhaul, of the AFP during the next several years.<6>"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile#Economy
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:23 PM
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4. I'm Latin American, capitalist and damn proud of it.
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