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Miss_Underestimated (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:13 PM Original message |
Catholic Church is attacking Obama already; threatens to close Catholic Hospitals |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. Aww Geez..... |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. ... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I'd hit it. |
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Sultana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. Perfect, lol |
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tabbycat31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. tax the shit out of them |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
5. The church hasn't violated its tax exempt status. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. thank you |
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Miss_Underestimated (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. This is considered lobbying and therefore places the tax exempt status in |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. No, it doesn't. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. ??? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Fine. Call the IRS. |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #12 |
37. You need the rest of the sentence for its meaning - |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
55. Not sure about that; |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
56. I thought so. Churches can say abortion is wrong...fight this legislation |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
6. wtf are you talking about? They attacked him loooong before he was elected. |
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Miss_Underestimated (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. congresspeople take seriously the mail they receive and numbers make a |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
33. Unless its Democrats ignoring pleas from the activists in their base. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 10:05 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. We need to get money out of our elections -- and that includes corporations . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
35. Come on . . . these are printed postcards . . . ? Someone must ask who's organized this -- !!! |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. I don't know where you are, but I grew up in Pgh. There were 4 |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Have they paid off all the lawsuits yet? That might be one of the real reasons. |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. You might have a point |
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CatholicEdHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. It is a national push with a postcard drive |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #10 |
38. If they want tax-exempt status, they have to NOT engage in politics . . . |
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rwheeler31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
14. Where do you live, this is nutty. |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
16. The election results should prove how irrelevant they are when it comes to Obama |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
47. Obama won the Catholic vote n/t |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #47 |
58. I know. Thats why I said the Catholic Church is irrelavant against Obama |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Gotcha n/t |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
48. self-delete |
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ChazII (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
18. No surprise here. n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
19. A few things: First, what in the hell do we need the RCC running hospitals for....???? |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I wouldn't necessarily say they should nationalize hospitals |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:16 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Catholic Hosps are "Non-Profit" presently - except they send the poor to collection, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #22 |
34. At least not profit -- but nothing wrong with nationalizing hospitals, either . . . |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Yes, getting religion out of the hospital biz is probably good idea |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
20. Why? Did Obama pledge a crackdown on institutionalized child molestation? |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
24. Yeah, hello? |
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pmorlan1 (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:56 AM Response to Original message |
25. I would have walked out |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 05:58 AM Response to Original message |
28. The Catholic hospital in my area was very well-regarded & had a wonderful birthing center... |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. You might be interested in what I posted down thread |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
29. Right wing propaganda has hijacked the church on this issue and, as usual, it's wrong. |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
30. FOCA would not cause Catholic hospitals to shut down. |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 07:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Sorry, you aren't allowed to apply facts and logic when it comes to religious fervor. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
32. Why didn't Bush outlaw abortion? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Bwahaha! Because it's merely an EXTREMELY CYNICAL election-year "issue" to get the one-issue voters! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Exactly! My point exactly. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. When I taught, a number of my "gifted" juniors were RW'ers. I once told them not to hold their |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. And now there is a fervor surrounding |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
39. Yes, let hundreds die of illness and injury instead! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. No . .. do what other countries have done . .. NATIONALIZE the hospitals . .. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
42. How Christian! |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
43. FOCA could not clear the Senate in this Congress. It would be a very close vote in the House as |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
46. Rumors aside, FOCA legislation no threat to Catholic health care |
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Jackeens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
50. Let's do a deal with the Catholic Church... |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
51. I call BS on this post: "Congregants were ordered" .... c'mon. |
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Miss_Underestimated (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. It was a form of coercion. The priest has the power to excommunicate |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Riiggghhhttt........n/t |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 02:47 AM Response to Original message |
57. Oh man religion just keeps dragging us into the swamp. The poor the sick that's all their business > |
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