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Southern Patriot Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:31 PM
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Wingnut delusions of grandeur... and why they matter.
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 01:35 PM by Southern Patriot
David Brock and others have analyzed the rightwing propaganda machine and named it The Noise Machine or the Echo Dome.

Here's an excerpt from Pandagon blog ( http://www.pandagon.net/) which defines the rightwing's affinity to lies. Follow that up with a link to No More Mister Nice Blog for a really good look at the delusions of the wingnuts.

My favorite is National Review's Jonah Goldberg comparing the memos scandal to the assasination of Arch Duke Ferdinand!

Pandagon:

The Seventh Seal Has Opened, And It's Half Off Cheese Fries

No More Mister Nice Blog ( http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2004/09/you-probably-arent-aware-of-this-if.html) rounds up some evidence of something I've been noticing since last Thursday, something that's blossomed almost uncontrollably since the entirety of the conservative movement adopted kerning as the new supply-side economics.

It's not that they're attacking "old media". It's that they legitimately believe they've succeeded in the revolution and are now simply standing amidst the plunder, divvying up the fax machines and deciding who gets Katie Couric as their concubine. The entire story now has almost nothing to do with the memos - it's the mythical triumph of the revolution, something far more Trotskyite in nature than democratic. The history's been written before it's been lived, the effect determined even as the putative cause sputters to a halt.

Having MikeSC troll around here has actually given me some insight into how Republicans lie. It's never with facts - the facts are almost incidental to the argument, little more than a launching point for the story, which is the important part. On this, they've vastly overreached, declaring the empire established and soveriegn while they're still designing the uniform for the army. But what's important is that they have a story to tell, one that they've decided on before the smear takes hold. The Kerry campaign provided fake memos to CBS! There's no proof of any of the actual allegations contained within that statement, but it is the story, and they're just waiting for something to back it up. Even if nothing comes, the story has itself been out there long enough

(...)

And the response? Long story short, it's about building up our own narrative machine. Not lists of facts, although they help. Not point-by-point contradictions, although they help. Generating the framework in which all evidence fits is the key - conservatives excel at setting this framework, so even things which blatantly disprove what they're saying must function not against the evidence they've provided, but the story they're told. We need better, more forceful, and more rapid storytellers.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:45 PM
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1. We are trying but lying is not our style
we are not a radical movement though

I wuold like to remind yuo of Kissinger's assetment of radical movements, in his thesis... he was right in the 1950s, nobody can beleive what they are doing so everybody is in denial
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