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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:55 PM
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Being Cassandra SUCKS
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 02:15 PM by troublemaker
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(I am posting this before the CBS announcement, but after Josh Marshall's QT tip of the announcement. If CBS's announcement turns out to be proof of authenticity then I will be delighted by the good news and happy to be flamed accordingly. If it's ambiguous then we will all remain in suspense.)

As I wrote yesterday:

...and I cannot tell you how much authentic artwork has fake signatures because someone who is correctly convinced a work is authentic gilds the lily by adding an amateurish sig. People will mock up ANYTHING as long as they are morally certain it advances the truth. I have no theory, but we should remember to consider scenarios like this:

Say Burkett saw the Bush people shredding docs from Bush's file in 1994. Maybe Burkett got nosy and poked around to deduce what had been destroyed and goes through Killian's files. At a later date Burkett recreates a few documents (from his own 1990s handwritten notes?) He gives them to somebody... or mails them to somebody. Maybe he didn't mean to say they were the originals, but things got out of hand. Maybe it was an Anita Hill deal, where he shared them with someone with a promise they would not be published. Since he knows they are *accurate* it's harmless to provide them to steer an investigator in the right direction, right? But once they are out of his hands...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x809521#809837

And the day before that:

I have little doubt that they reflect the reality of Bush's "service" I'm 99.9% sure Bush went AWOL because he couldn't afford to take a drug test. My only concern is the chance of someone gilding the lily, reasoning that a little fast 'n loose serves the greater cause of truth. (Like if Burkett read these memos before they were shredded, and then recreated them later.)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x805121#805364

And of course:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x805121
and:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x809521#809887

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:58 PM
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1. let's not forget one thing
no one here knows if they were fake.

Everyone is talking out of their asses on this, so let's not pretend we're not.

That said, these memos are NOT forgeries.

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:58 PM
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2. What CBS has admitted that the documents are forgeries?
No? Then keep holding your breath.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:00 PM
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3. No- unless this poster knows more than all of America- sources please
besides your threads on DU.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:00 PM
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4. http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:03 PM
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5. Please direct me to the part where he highlights
that CBS has admitted the documents are not legitimate.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:06 PM
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6. Fair enough. We'll know in 25 minutes
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:07 PM
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7. Marshall is simply referring to the secretary's recollections. Nothing new
there. No need to rush on this. If you turn out to have been a Cassandra (or just a Nervous Nellie), you'll have plenty of time to crow (or eat it).
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:17 PM
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8. Yeah what they said.
n/t
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