CBS-MemoCrap is smear job and a ROVE Hit --- drop the damn subject

[cthrumatrix]

Put two and two together folks:
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* You know the way the smarmy SOB Rove works .... enough said.


Sequence of events:
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* Rove sets up CBS somehow

* IMMEDIATELY a RW blogger says they are fakes

* IMMEDIATELy you have CNN and RW controlled media dissing CBS.

* The next days you have RW radio stations that do ZERO fricking homework quoting exact details of the issue and why it's fake...when nobosy fricking knows.

* Now you have REPUGS calling for an Inquiry...and EVERYONE is now tying it to a "democratic operation" --- which is theeee major bullshit alert.

* THE RW media NEVER alalyzes stuff like this and then keeps up the attack - they have zero investigative journalists.


THIS was all planned... shrubya has shit to run on and it's a SMEAR TO TAKE TIME OFF THE CALENDAR AND FILL THE AIRWAYS.

THIS IS ALL ROVE -- THEY WILL KEEP TRY TO TIE IT TO DEMS AND KEEP UP THE SMEARING.

[David Dunham]

1. I agree with you and have been thinking the same thoughts.

[cthrumatrix]

3. they want to tie in the Democratic Party and Kerry - this is a classic

[Uzybone]

2. I agree to an extent.

but unless you know someone here who controls the media, who are you telling to drop it? I'm just glad Kerry never got close to this one, but I'm sure it will be spun as though he planned the whole sham.

[cthrumatrix]

4. us as a DU community...our task is too INFORM the media and or people

how this bullshit works...

There are ALOT of repug operatives on the DU board pushing this shit...trying to "escape the issues".

Kerry has a great message..this is to stop his momentum...period.

[johnnyrocket]

5. Rove needs to be exposed, and taken down...

not a notch, take down and OUT! ...Rove is the 'distillation of evil'.

[cthrumatrix]

6. this is the way he works...as Mccain ...he has been doing this for a LONG

time

[Mr.Green93]

7. let's wait for the secretary interview tonight

[cthrumatrix]

8. too many small radio outlets are "on message" this is a witch hunt

and a case to destroy CBS and link the dems.

Kerry has a message that frightens Rove/awol....it's issues!

[aquart]

19. Clear Channel?

[cthrumatrix]

9. congress DOES NOT move this fast UNLESS they are told - ROVE

don't let anyone fool us that this is a dem. smear campaign...

be ready to go on the offensive!

[nini]

10. How does this get around the fact they are NOT answering ?s

All they have to do is show PROOF dumbass took his physical, was present during the months in question etc.. That's ALL they have to do and they CANNOT do it.

I don't see why the validity of these is even an issue if they cannot prove otherwise. The point we have to make is the answering of the questions.. slowly but surely people may begin to get it.

[cthrumatrix]

11. it is NOT going to get awol to fess up to anything... he never does

this is a classic hit by Rove...

IF the WH wanted to come out and answer and put it to bed...they could have... the repugs want to keep "memo-gate" a campaign issue

IT's not....Kerry has a great message...the issues work!

[Zorbet55]

26. Not only do I agree, but

I have another question. If there was something questionable or bogus about this story, why wouldn't the National Guard Bureau clear this up? Why would they have not cleared this up 4 years ago? Why are people so reluctant to believe that these documents may be authentic other than they have been brain-washed by the RW media as has become the norm?

[nini]

27. Welcome to DU Zorbet55!

:hi:

[flpoljunkie]

12. You give Rove too much credit. CBS has been working on this story awhile.

They have a source whose confidentiality they are respecting.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

13. payback to corporate parent Viacom....

Viacom execs are donating to Kerry.

Viacom subsidiary releases two books damaging to W....Price of Loyalty and the even more damaging Against All Enemies.

CBS features the author of Against All Enemies...bad image for Bush

CBS also features Woodward in an interview on that Bush book.

So, CBS=Viacom=enemy.

How do you payback a corporate media congolmerate...fuck up its flagship brand...CBS News...

[cthrumatrix]

14. AND - the fine was huge for the SuperBowl Janet Jackson "planned scam"

they are coming down hard on CBS.

They are killing two birds with one stone.

CBS could bring back the guy from the dead to answer questions...to CNNN...FOX and RW media radio..it would not matter --- they are executing a "hit" to smear the Dems

[Cha]

20. I guess we can thank Sumner Redstone for

being a Kerry Supporter? Man, this is great and I hope CBS comes out the victor!

[cthrumatrix]

21. I don't see how they become a victor UNLESS shrub is outed for the Rove

ploy...period.

[Carni]

15. OR CBS could be playing Rove

If these docs (or rather their content) are legit, let's say CBS has the docs retyped and then airs them but keeps the originals under lock and key--

Demands answers from bush about them.

If bush answered the charges (which he refuses to do) they could do an "AH HA" we have the real docs.

Remember all the RW fruit cakes have already said "all his docs were hand written" bla bla bla so it's going to look a tad bit ridiculous if CBS later SHOWS the handwritten docs because they couldn't go back on their talking points.

In addition now all attention is focused on the documents -- if the forgery issue hadn't come up this issue would already be a dead one because the whore cable media would have just ignored the whole thing.

Just a thought-

[cthrumatrix]

16. IF that were true...would the "RW blogger" , media, and detailed analysis

come out so quickly and relentlessly be persued day after day.

I heard even Scott McClennan (WH spokesman) try to link the CBS thing to a dem smear.

I'm telling you ..this could be turned on the Dems who don't want anything to do with this.

Kerry has a damn message - issues. And ROVE DOES NOT WANT THIS CAMPAIGN TO BE ABOUT ISSUES - THEY CAN'T WIN THAT WAY.

[Carni]

18. You're assuming the forgery allegations

"would the "RW blogger" , media, and detailed analysis"
come out so quickly and relentlessly be persued day after day."

Were started by a RW'er...

Anyone can post on RW site, as whoever they want to pretend to be!

[nomaco-10]

17. You're so right and CBS took the bait too. It doesn't matter anyway....

so much doubt has been cast on the authenticity of the memos, those that were leaning towards bush* will still vote for him and those that were on the fence may just vote for him because they think he is being slandered by the dems. It was a win win situation for Rove and the pubs. Let's face it folks, the average voter is getting sick and tired of all this swiftboat-TANG reflux from 35 years ago.

Between the "memos" and the non stop hurricane coverage, Kerry can't even get arrested in the media. The pubs must be ecstatic.

[aquart]

22. Yes, Chicken Little and the sky is falling.

Ye gods. The Free Republic could have a column saying all Democrats are really stolen Republican babies and you'd go to your parents and ask for DNA tests.

Gullible? My word.

[cthrumatrix]

23. ROVE mantra -- "anything but issues"...and a smear against Dems

is even better.

When they made the leap of including Dems with the CBS name the whole Rove hit was exposed with the layered approach to this man mande scandal.

[Catherine Vincent]

24. I'm really starting to believe that now.

Rove figured this would come out anyway so back when this AWOL business was the talk of the week (and then fizzled), he cooked up the scenario that you wrote above to get our minds off of Bush's disaster in Iraq.

[cthrumatrix]

25. Rove mantra - stay off issues....create controversey and smear

they cannot win on issues....this IS their campaign

[w4rma]

28. You were bullied as a kid, weren't you? And you gave him your lunch money

each time, too. Correct?

[cthrumatrix]

29. pardon me... my hypothesis was spot on... it was typed before 60 Min

the rove job beomes more clear...and what does DU do now....nothing.

Focus on the issues of the campaign.

[Mr_Spock]

32. LOL - you're mean.

n/m

[Mr_Spock]

30. I wish it were so, but this is out of anyones control at this point -

everybody relax and enjoy the side show. Why would you let it distract you from doing your part to help Kerry get elected? Why would an issue that has no upside for Dubya be a good diversion for this election? Focus on whatever you want - leave the rest of us to enjoy this if we want to.

[hansolsen]

31. We will win by making Bush's character issue number one in this election

Bailing out on the TANG issue now is just admitting defeat. Mrs. Knox is pure gold. We should keep it in the news all week.

[brentspeak]

33. Forged documents could ONLY have come from the White House

Who else could possibly have access to the source material that would be used to produce a forged document summarizing Killian's thoughts on Bush?

I've got feeling CBS got taken by Rove.

[Leilani]

34. I agree with you completely

this was a Rove job.

Look at his history... the stuff sent to the Gore Campaign in 2000.

But Gore was clean & turned the stuff in.

There is a story about Rove in a Texas election, how he bugged his own office, & then blamed the opponent.

The Right Wing Noise Machine was planned & in place WAITING for the Rather story.

Now lets see if Rather figures out who set him up.