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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:41 PM
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Here's the dead giveaway on the Memos story!
At this moment a week ago, the forgeries theme had already been created.

I go to FR now and do a search for Knox and the last post as 2:35PM.

This observation is extremely revealing. It tells me that:

1. The forgeries theme was a preplanned strategy - they could hardly wait to release it.

2. They have no strategy now - they aren't even discussing what just came out!

This stark contradiction reeks of manufactured efforts.

My feeling is that Free Republic doesn't really even exist - there are no Freepers! All there are is paid propagandists and a few dupes.

It is eerily reminescient of the paid propagandists that Prescott Bush's company paid to come to America to prostheletize for Hitler.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:46 PM
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1. I remember silence one other time.........
It was just after that disasterous press conference. Are they saying ANYTHING over there?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:49 PM
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2. did you go into...
....the threads they don't want out in front?

There are buttons in the upper right corner for "chat" and "bloggers" etc. Some of the ruder commentary is hidden there.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:58 PM
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7. I searched for "Knox"
found three threads.

Most recent post at that time was 2:35 Pacific - well before the CBS broadcast.

They haven't been given their marching orders on this.

Plus - remember how they pull this "we're not amatures" stuff - they are practically coing right out saying that they are organized by someone. We saw the crossover into the swift boat vets activity...

The real Freepers were racist, anti-semetic, homophobic militia guys. What you see over there now was appropriated by Neocons and reformed to their strategy.
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Peachhead22 Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:49 PM
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3. RE: the original post
And that surprises you, how?
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:50 PM
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4. huh?? they're NOT blathering about this?????
come on! NO WAY! They're not rallying the troops to crash CBS fax machines? Deluge with emails? phone calls? No WAY!? Maybe their server is down. Yeah, that's the ticket..
:kick:
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:50 PM
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5. So lets have a rumble on the edge of town DU vs. FreeRe. and see
who shows up.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:51 PM
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6. No they are real my brother post there - I know people who go there
I think they are laughing about how people are getting worked up thinking they/Rove planned this. In fact i know they are - my brother told me so
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:01 PM
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8. Like I said - there are a few honest dupes
but for the most part they are not a grassroots blog - they are closer to lucianne.

If you remember to the Clinton days, the real Freepers were racist, anti-semetic, homophobic militia guys.

Someone made a deal with Rim Jobb and he expunged that element and cultivated the current form of the propaganda.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:05 PM
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11. Dittoheads and paid guides who steer the energy in desired directions...
I don't think you'd get much argument with that statement.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:25 PM
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15. alot of them were from the John Birch society
the original freepers at least
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:09 PM
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12. A few honest dupes?ha. You people that claim Rove/RW planned this all
along are really starting to make all of us at DU look foolish to outsiders
TRUST ME!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:02 PM
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9. Um, I was just over there.
Quite a few threads on the 60 Minutes piece.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:10 PM
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13. As of about 9:00
and after I pointed out their error. They were a little late.

But you can prove me wrong - can you find any post on this topic from 8:00 PM to about 8:45? Because they were right on the forgeries theme, as if they were just waiting for the whistle to blow to unleash it.
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:04 PM
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10. Where can I follow up?
Follow up on the paid propagandists that Prescott Bush's company paid to come to America to proselytize for Hitler?
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:23 PM
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14. there was a document released
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 08:29 PM by Must_B_Free
I'll have to track it down. At one time I saw the actual document from the 30s that proved this. I think it was from the national archives and was associated with the censure that Prescott Bush received regarding trading with the enemy.

here's the motherload - have fun! http://democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Prescott%20Bush

here is another reference:

David G. Armstrong, Sins of the Fathers, The Austin Chronicle, April 10, 1992 (pp. 14, 16): "...in 1934, a shipping line established at the end of World War I in a deal arranged for Brown Brothers, Harriman by Prescott Bush's partner and father-in-law, G.H. Walker, was found by Congress to be subsidizing 'a wide range of pro-Nazi propaganda efforts both in Germany and the United States.'"


Direct reference to National Archives document:
Box 338 – Vesting Order No. 126

Seizure of “all of the assets of the Hamburg-American Line and of the North German Lloyd and of all the American branches jointly operated by them.” Prescott Bush, George Herbert Walker and others operated the U.S. arm of Hamburg-American Line, seized herewith. Among other things, the company offered a cash reward to any American who would travel to Germany on a one-way ticket and proselytize for Hitler. In addition, the line also smuggled Nazi spies into the U.S., even after America had entered the war.

Based on the company’s direct relationships with Nazi spies coming into the U.S., President Roosevelt is said to have felt this was an act of treason.

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