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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:04 PM
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Couldn't think of a single comeback for my right-wing-nut father-in-law
This is what he actually said:

"Obama will end up being the most incompetant president in US history. George Bush was a genius. And, every trouble
that exists today was Clinton's fault."

All I could say was "That's absolutely crazy". I usually can take his stuff, but last night I just got enraged and had
to walk away.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:06 PM
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1. you gave an appropriate response. The only thing you could have done better...
.. is to ask if the doctor needs to increase his meds.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:06 PM
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2. Poor thing..Sometimes it's
better to just walk away..you can't argue with crazy.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:06 PM
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3. Enraged? I would have had a laughing fit.
NGU.

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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:06 PM
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4. Can he prove any of it? Numbers. Does he has numbers?
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 02:09 PM by YOY
Because the numbers I have are pretty much proving him wrong. Hell, I'm no huge Clinton fan but the financial numbers were in his favor.

And on the negative and nasty side...how many years do you think the old codger has in him?
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:07 PM
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5. Genius? How?
That would be about it for any snappy comeback from me...

Good luck with him..

He didn't just drink the koolaid...he helped mix the stuff!

:eyes:
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:07 PM
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6. Maybe ask
him to name one thing that Bush did that was great. I would like to know what the wackos think constitutes genius.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:23 PM
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17. A couple of years ago when I asked a RW nut the same thing
you know what he said to me?

Seriously...

He said that one of Bush's major accomplishments was extending Daylight Saving Time.




Truly...I am in AWE of such genius....!!!!


:rofl:
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:09 PM
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7. Bless his heart.
Our troops are fighting overseas for our freedom to believe whatever we want.
Isn't that what yr supposed to say when people don't like the President?
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DontTreadOnMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:09 PM
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8. The best comeback for any comparison
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 02:10 PM by DontTreadOnMe
When comparing Bush to Obama... I always resort to:

"Well at least Obama can speak in complete sentences."

Then I follow it up with:

"When Bush was asked, 'How come you can't find Osama Bin Laden'?"

Bush answered: "Because he is hiding".

Then proclaim we need someone who is smart as President, like someone who graduated from Havard.
It usually will silence even the most hardened Repug.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:56 PM
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27. Bush got his MBA from Harvard
When it comes to legacies, admissions into the Ivies is a joke. If daddy went, all you need is a pulse. But I understand your larger point.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:09 PM
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9. Well, there is a certain genius that can keep so many people delusional despite the facts
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:36 PM
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24. I don't think Bush did that, though.
The honor of keeping people delusional is the province of the right-wing media.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:09 PM
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10. I take it he believes in unicorns & leprechauns too?
What do you say to someone totally detached from reality who believes they live in an insane fantasy world?
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:11 PM
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11. Next time LAUGH IN HIS FACE. Have a side splitting roll on the ground giggle fest and after you get
your breath back. Look at him and say "No you were serious?"
Then return to step, 1 LAUGH IN HIS FACE. Anyone that stupid can not be reasoned with.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:14 PM
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12. Sounds like my BiL

Who just joined a Facebook "Impeach Barack Obama" group - probably just to piss me off LOL. The funny thing is, that most of his friends who commented on that thought he was nuts! :rofl:
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:16 PM
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13. A friendly warning, the crazy are getting crazier!
Since the election my mother and sister have gone further right, something that I thought was not possible. I am sorry to say that I can't take the insanity any longer. After listening to my mother spew this kind of thing with a topping of 'You Liberals' I realized that I had to give up. My comment was,'Mom, I am dead to you'. No more. I need to be free from the selfish, unreasonableness of the Rush folks. Good luck with your family. peace, kim
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:04 PM
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55. I agree. It's almost unbearable to be around them just because
there are just so hideously ignorant. Only listen to Rush. Don't ever
get any independent verification.

My mother-in-law is on a crazy kick after reading a book about how the "muslims
are taking over Europe. They are filthy. And, they are camping out in tents."

She also is so scared we will be attacked - it has immobilized her. I just
asked her why the republicans voted against inspecting cargo ships for
explosives. Waiting for a response.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:19 PM
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14. Next time, say "I'm sorry. I don't know how to speak Psycho!" n/t
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:19 PM
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15. Is the reason
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 02:20 PM by polmaven
you couldn't think of a comback because you were too busy rolling on the floor laughing? :rofl:
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:20 PM
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16. He was trying to get a rise out of you
I have a step-grandfather who does the same thing. "Ann Coulter is a genius!" he declares, "We should kill all them god damned Muslims and save everyone else the trouble!"

I don't think he honestly believes this... but the people on the right are, basically, attention whores who thrive off antagonistic relationships. he's bored, so he wants to pick a fight with someone in the ratehr liberal-leaning household. Inevitably someone takes a nibble and then we're all taken down the broad and winding path of Reagan's greatness, then eed to obliterate every nation in the world, the evil of evolution, and the whole Clenis Cult spiel. All in one argument.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:29 PM
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20. Attention whores...
I've found the best way to deal with them is to either look at them in silence and then change the subject completely, or say "You're right", and then change the subject.

Some people might say this amounts to actually aiding and abetting the stupidity, but I don't think so. There are a few types of people in this world you just do NOT bother arguing with...

drunks...people with dementia...and attention whores

don't even bother because you will get absolutely nowhere.

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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:18 PM
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34. I have a pretty good record dealing with that second group...
But learning how was part of job training, so...

Otherwise, right on.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:26 PM
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18. I've Had Similar Conversations with Relatives
and I was so dumbfounded I couldn't give a decent reply either.

IMO, to feel like you've come out better in an exchange like that, a lot of it is adopting an attitude of nonchalance and asking your interlocutor to support or substantiate (not prove) his or her opinion. As Elvis Costello sang: "I used to be disgusted. Now I try to be amused."
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:27 PM
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19. I'm having trouble picturing a setting where an absurd conversation
like that could take place.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:07 PM
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56. that's because you are lucky enough to live in CA and I am
stuck in Texas. Here there the popultation is made up of wingnuts, a large apolitical group who have no clue or desire to be informed, plus a sprinkling of progressives you have to drive
all day to find.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:30 PM
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21. All you can do is fall-down laughing. n/t
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:31 PM
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22. He's just trying to get a rise out of you.
Just tell him, "That's ok Dad, most of the nation and the entire world knows better."

Some people are proud of their willful ignorance, and there is nothing you can do or say to change them.

Flat-earthers exist to this very day.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:24 PM
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40. fer sure. "Pissing off libruals" is very important to conservatives.
really doesn't matter to what end.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:31 PM
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23. This is like almost direct quotes from my Dad.
I told him that no president can do worse then starting two quagmires, letting a city practically disappear into the ocean, taking a surplus to a huge crippling debt, and taking a fairly robust economy and letting it tank. And if everything is Clinton's fault then when the next president comes in that means that everything will be Bush's fault since we are blaming presidents 8 years back. You got to be sarcastic. There is more you can say but that is a start.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:37 PM
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25. Dubya was a genius and everything was Clinton's fault?
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 02:39 PM by 4lbs
Umm, ask him these two things:

1.) What was the DOW stock market number at the beginning and the end of their respective 8 years?

2.) What was the unemployment rate at the beginning and end of their respective 8 years?


Who's the dunce and who's the genius again?
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:52 PM
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26. Start suggesting that early dementia will get worse and a "home" is in his future
See if the lying ahole starts acting a little more sane.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:57 PM
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28. Isn't he entitled to his opinion?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:26 PM
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42. Yeah, no crap, it's America and all that. What's your point? People can't differ out loud?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:34 PM
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46. As soon as he states it, he's entitled to a debate.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:35 PM
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47. Yep, just not his own facts. nt
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:58 PM
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29. "Nobody believes that".....
Next time he spouts off...tell him...

Tikki
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:00 PM
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30. You could have looked at him in shock and said,
"What planet are you on? Have you been sniffing glue? No one really believes that crap, you need to stop listening to people like Rush and do some research on your own. Stop being a sheep and believing everything you're told, because when you say things like that people who know better just think you're ignorant."

That worked for a friend's father a few years ago. Long time Republican, started hating Bush when he found out what was really going on, and he voted for Obama!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:07 PM
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32. I would have pulled out a thermometer and said ...
are you feeling alright? Should I call 911? You might be having a stroke.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:04 PM
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31. That's nice of you to visit your father-in-law ...
at the state hospital.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:11 PM
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33. usually a good hardy laugh in their face gets the point across. nt
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:18 PM
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35. You can't argue with them, they are stuck in their delusions.
Laugh in their face. Look at the person next to them and ask "Isn't dementia a sad thing?" "How's that trickle down working for you?" works well on one of my friends who now lives in someone else's basement after losing most of his business in the bush years. I think quick, sharp, brutal responses are the only thing that will work. Trying to reason with them is useless. You can't fight crazy, you can't reason with unreasonable.
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johan helge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:20 PM
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36. My advice: Learn a lot about some issues,
e.g. Iraq, Bush's insider trading with Harken stocks, or US health care, and tell him some simple facts. Important facts are like big stones, they can't simply be brushed away.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:22 PM
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37. clearly a sign that fux gnews and jabba the rush
and AM hate raydeeoh needs to be destroyed for sedition.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:23 PM
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38. I'd out-wingnut him.
"No, not true that every trouble that exists today was Clinton's fault. It was Carter's fault too! They lent all that money to the po' folks through the CRM!"

Wingnuts actually believe this. You string 'em along a bit, and then... yoink!
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:24 PM
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39. Did you ask him how to explain it was all Clinton's fault?
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:25 PM
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41. dude. The Cole! and the CRM! Come on!
Clinton was "handed OBL's head on a silver platter" donchaknow.

And the Community Reinvestment Act expansion CAUSED THE FINANCIAL MELTDOWN. um, eight years later. Really!
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:50 PM
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51. and there was NOTHING the poor ole George could have done to prevent this!
Nothing! 6 years of complete governmental control and 8 years in charge of the Executive branch but his hands were tied in preventing this horrible disaster that no one could have foreseen!!! :sarcasm:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:31 PM
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43. The answer to his claim is "Go fuck yourself, you shit-eating moron"
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:32 PM
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44. I'd have to get real snotty...and call him...
...and say things like "hey, it's sunny here, is it raining over there?", and "hey, the sun just set here, is it rising over there?"

And when he inevitably asks "WTF?!?!", say, "oh well, it seems that your living in Bizarro world, where up is down, Clinton was bad and Bush was good. So I figured the opposite of everything happening in the real world must be happening where you're at".


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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:33 PM
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45. The housing bubble didn't even start to form until Bush took office.
Have him refute that.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:38 PM
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48. A man called into Ed Shultz's show the other day
and said that the economic crisis was Obama's fault. He was in office for three weeks and crumbled our entire economy?? The guy was dead serious too. You just can't change stupid.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:40 PM
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49. The only rebuttal to that is laughter...gut-busting laughter.
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:43 PM
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50. good move
you can't argue with batshit insane
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:12 PM
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52. I laugh at stupid people.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:18 PM
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53. If Bush was a genius ... why was he unable to correct Clinton's failures?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:00 PM
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54. I love that - going to definitely use that one - thanks!
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:16 PM
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57. You can bang your head against a wall
or explain why he his so very, very wrong. Either will get you just as far with someone who actually believes this.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:30 PM
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58. "Oh dad your doctor called he said that you could double your meds".
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mscuedawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:34 PM
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59. We mustve married into the same family...my FIL called Bush a genius also...
...when asked who he thought was the best President in his lifetime...(he's in his 60s) and he chose the "second Bush"...

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