I know I'm asking to be flamed but...If John Kerry is elected,

[notbush]

what will he do about Iraq?
I really don't know.
He HAS really been "all over the place"
Just want to here Your opinion.

[alittlelark]

1. No, he has not.

do a bit of research - start with his campaign site.

[notbush]

3. Will he add more troops?

[alittlelark]

7. Go elsewhere

[wtmusic]

5. Eh ya beat me!

Great minds think alike!!

:toast:

[mike_c]

10. tell the truth....

Kerry does not have a coherent strategy for getting out of Iraq. His public statements have been consistent, but consistently trying to avoid addressing the embarrassment of his IWR vote and subsequent statements by himself and his campaign staff in favor of the invasion and occupation of Iraq. If you think Kerry is on the right side of this issue you're deluding yourself. Kerry could have reframed the entire campaign if he'd had the courage to tell the truth about the motives for invading Iraq and to call for a rapid withdrawal.

on edit: anybody here remember Dennis Kucinich? Howard Dean?

[Julien Sorel]

14. Just what is this truth he should be telling?

[wtmusic]

21. There is no coherent strategy to be had

If you have one please enlighten us.

It's going to be one month, one week at a time. Kerry is being as specific as he possibly can be, without lying like a Republican.

[TexasUnderground]

27. Amen brother

Bush didn't get us into this shit in one day, Kerry won't be able to unwind us in a day either.

[fortyfeetunder]

32. I think a Kerry win will make * mess up Iraq further...

If Kerry wins the election, * will do his damnedest to make Iraq FUBAR by the time Kerry takes office. Kerry will likely be in a no-win situation.

[DieboldMustDie]

44. Methinks that's already a fait accompli...

if you'll pardon my French. ;)

[LittleClarkie]

49. Rather like

blasting Afganistan back to the Stone Age. Oh wait, they're already there.

Can't get much more fubar. And remembering Afganistan, he will have double fubar. Might * go for a three-fer. How many different countries can he fubar between now and the election.

[Leilani]

50. Or Wes Clark?

Who testified to Congress against the war.

[Erika]

36. Kerry's Holding Strong & Tough!

He fought the battles for his country in more ways than one. Go Kerry!

[wtmusic]

2. He's been "all over the place", huh?

Bullshit.

http://www.johnkerry.com

Do your research before you post.

[JI7]

4. another anti Kerry post repeating right wing talking points from you

[notbush]

6. I'm not anti Kerry...Tell me , will he add more troops?

[alittlelark]

25. I'll answer your question

He will use logic and his skills in foreign relations to answer that question.

What will your guy do?

[notbush]

28. My guy?

What does that mean????? Think I'm a troll?
I want to here what other Kerry supporters think he will do.
He hasn't told me lately.

[alittlelark]

35. Why should he tell you?

Go to his website, get informed.

No more questions that have already been answered by THE MAN.

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[Norquist Nemesis]

8. You've been listening to too many "analysts"

reporters, and pundits.

Check his site.

[Erika]

9. Kerry Can Gain Respect That Bush Lost

Sharon said he more or less pissed on Bush's roadmap to peace.

[notbush]

11. I just want to have a conversation.

At one time Kerry said we needed more troops in Iraq. Do we?
Has he changed his opinion?

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. Go read the site and pay attention

not trying to be flipant here...

Also WATCH C-SPAN, don't expect the media to give you this
info...

[brainshrub]

12. I don't know.

Due to the strategic importance of oil in a post-Hubbard Peak era, Iraq is to important a prize to let go.

I do know this: Whether we stay in Iraq or not, Kerry will do a better job than chimpy.

[mike_c]

18. "...Iraq is to important a prize to let go."

Congratulations. You just joined the Project for the New Amerikan Century.

[brainshrub]

29. Wow... that did sound bad didn't it?

Let me elaborate a bit. What I meant to say was that, while I think we should withdraw from Iraq immediately, I don't think the power-structure will allow it.

As much as I like Kerry over Bush, we have to admit he is an establishment candidate.

[alittlelark]

51. Wow, that did sound bad.

really, especially incongruent w/ your avatar.

[ugarte]

13. Here's part of the answer: Edwards promises no military draft

By JENNIFER BUNDY, Associated Press Writer

PARKERSBURG, W.Va. - Vice presidential candidate John Edwards promised a West Virginia mother on Wednesday that if the Democratic ticket is elected in November the military draft would not be revived.

During a question-and-answer session, the mother of a 23-year-old who recently graduated from West Virginia University asked Edwards whether the draft would be reinstated.


"There will be no draft when John Kerry (news - web sites) is president," Edwards said, a statement that drew a standing ovation.



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040...

[ogradda]

15. yeah and you'd better believe

there will be one if kerry isn't elected

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. June 15th 2005, to be exact

[notbush]

19. Nobody is saying they'll start a new draft. But

will John Kerry add more U.S. troops to the force we now have in Iraq?
Not a difficult question. Not long ago he said he would.
If he elected President, will he add more U.S. troop to the war in Iraq?

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. No, if he can get international help

go read the John Kerry Site....

Why are you so concrend, afraid YOU may have to go to the sand box?

[notbush]

26. There aren't going to be any "troops from Europe" riding in

to take over as we're leaving.
No European leader that hasn't already committed troops is going to do so now.
Some money..... maybe.

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. And you think ONLY NATO

can play?

Rolls eyes


Again go to his site and read it...

[ogradda]

24. in the president's speech at the rnc

he said he plans on spreading democracy nation by nation. the army has been sending my two draft age kids brochures for the last two months. our troops are already painfully thin in the middle east. i am telling you if he is re-elected THERE WILL BE A DRAFT of course he isn't saying that it's an election year

[dennis4868]

20. how can he now say.....

what he will do about Iraq if he has no idea what the situation on the ground will be on January 20th and because he does not have the same type of access to the military official now in Iraq and the leaders around the world....

[LittleClarkie]

22. I will keep posting this link until everyone gets the message

www.kerryoniraqwar.com

[mike_c]

30. do you believe in the tooth fairy...?

How about the Easter bunny? How about Kerry didn't really vote to authorize the invasion of Iraq?

[notbush]

31. You can't say that!!!!!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. How many times do we have to explain that he voted

to give authority for bush to GO to the UN... not to invade Iraq

Bush was suposed to come back to the Hill, he did not...he took the IWR as authority to go to war. Read the damn thing... then come back...

For the record this is just one of the many reasons Bush should have been impeached, something about Contempt of Congress... not that Delay and Company would allow that

[LittleClarkie]

39. Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus...

Why did Kerry vote yes on the resolution to authorize the use of force in Iraq?

"The resolution of October 11, 2002 authorized the President to use force if necessary; it did not direct the President to go to war. Kerry voted for the resolution in order to strengthen the President's hand in dealing with Saddam Hussein and the U.N. It was not a vote on the question "Should we attack Iraq?" Nothing in the resolution required or recommended that the President take the nation into war when alternatives were available. That decision was made by President Bush.

On October 9, 2002, two days before the vote on the resolution, Kerry gave a speech on the Senate floor in which he spelled out his reasons for voting yes and made it crystal-clear that he was not advocating a hasty invasion of Iraq. He cited assurances that the President had given: that force would be used only as a last resort and that every effort would be made to work with allies rather than to act alone. Kerry stressed the need to use diplomacy and means other than military force to resolve the conflict, and made it clear that the reason he was voting yes was to give the President bargaining power. Use of force was to be the LAST resort, not the first."

Kerry is the son of a diplomat. He was thinking of diplomacy, not war.

Read the link, man. Read the link.

[oasis]

46. An informative link is always welcome here. Yours is most valuable.Thanks

:hi:

[ayane-chan]

40. You really don't know?

You really don't NEED to know do you? You know that Kerry is not Bush, and thats a huge improvement. Everything else will fall into place...

[Zero Gravitas]

41. Iraq is lose/lose

there is no way out from Bush's bloody mess. If the stakes weren't so high, if it weren't for the fact that another four years would let Bush do incalculable damage to the country, the world and Civilization in general (no hyperbole intended) I would *almost* want Bush to get another term so the blame for his GIGANTIC FUCK-UP will fall solely on his irresponsible, undignified, dishonorable, lying shitbag head. It would ensure that his name will go down in infamy (which it will anyway) and would destroy Republican Presidential hopes for a generation or two, but the stakes are just too high.

Unfortunately WHEN Kerry wins he will inevitably have to take blame for the Iraq debacle, even if he always makes the best possible choices. Bush's arrogance and stupidity have guaranteed disaster in Iraq, but the SCLM and right wing thugs will lay the blame on Kerry's doorstep.

[ogradda]

42. o exactly

like clinton is responsible for 9/11. of course * had been in charge for 9 months but still..... you'd think clinton was still drawing a paycheck on 9/11

[notbush]

43. I was a Deanie in the primaries, Kerry whacked him good.

Kerry was the bull....voted for the war res., Dean was too antiwar.
I see Kerry morphing into Deans positions on Iraq NOW.
I WAS supporting the "real deal".
I guess I just feel that Kerry seems to say "what's popular now".
But honestly (even going to his web page)I don't feel like I know what he's really going to do in Iraq.
At least give us something besides the "help from our old European allies".
I don't think they'll be there.

[Zero Gravitas]

45. Our former allies won' be there

Because the Iraq war never made any sense. Kerry's position is probably to subtle for the average voter to appreciate, but he can certainly do a better job of articulating it. He gave Bush the benefit of the doubt that he would do the responsible thing, that he would genuinely explore every possible alternative before invasion, that he would use the IWR as a stick to force Saddam to agree to anything/everything the Inspectors wanted.

The fact is that Bush is irresponsible and can not be trusted. He had already made up his mind and was going to invade no matter what. We can argue whether or not Kerry should have known better at the time or not, but his position was at least on the face of it the responsible, honorable, patriotic thing to do.

But now he should just come out and say "I assumed that the President of the United States was telling the truth and was acting in what he thought was the best interests of the country, so I supported him. I now know that that was not the case. Bush lied and had an ideological agenda that was not in this country's best interest"

[notbush]

47. Do you wonder if the UN's oil for (take your pick) "medicine,food,

Viagra" had anything to do with France, Germany, Russia.....not being too interested in seeing Iraq's leadership change?

[LittleClarkie]

48. They will be

If we can wrestle some of the pie away from Cheney and Halburton.

I believe I've heard him say that by offering various nations reconstruction contracts, we could possibly lure them in there, thereby getting the American face of the occupation.

Part of the problem is showing too much of your diplomatic hand before you actually get a chance to put your plan in action.

It has been enough for me to find out he has foreign policy chops, as well as an understanding of diplomacy. It's getting people to trust that he has the integrity to do the right thing, and a love for veterans that won't let him leave them in harm's way a minute more than necessary.

John Kerry, the best friend veterans never knew they had.

[Machiavelli05]

52. In case you didnt get the memo...

Dean and Kucinich SOMEHOW lost the primary... that means buck up and if you want Bush out, Vote Kerry... when you guys said Kerry wasnt as electable as Dean or Kucinich was that b/c you were going to sit there and talk ad nauseum (sp?) about how much better they would have been as candidates??


This is only directed to those who made Dean/Kucinich comments.

[PeaceProgProsp]

53. Bush isn't accidentally screwing up Iraq. They are doing things

intentionally which they know won't work.

Kerry does not want to screw up Iraq. He doesn't want chaos. America can do whatever it sets its mind to. Bush has set his mind to being a fuck-up. Kerry will set his mind to ending the chaos.