Why is Badnarik not being included in poll?

[Joe the Revelator]

While Ralph Nader is? I understand that Ralph is on more ballots,but still.

[dumpster_baby]

1. Ralph is NOT on more ballots: ralph 24; badnarik 44; constitution: 35

The Libertarian party and Constitution party are on many more ballots.

[I_like_chicken]

5. No, Badnarik is on 48 ballots

A petition drive in New Hampshire failed, and theres some problems in Oklahoma.

http://politics1.com/p2004-ballots.htm

[underpants]

2. I'm sorry WHO?

:shrug:

Seriously I have no idea what or who you are talking about.

[qanda]

3. This is exactly why...

Because unless you plan to vote for him, most people have not ever heard his name.

[I_like_chicken]

4. He is the Libertarian canidate for president

http://www.badnarik.org/

He also has the potential to steal votes away from Bush. Thats the point of this thread, the media is all too ready to talk about Ralph Nader, who can steal votes from Kerry, instead of Badnarik, who can steal votes from Bush.

Maybe people here should start donating to this guy, he is, after all, the Nader of the Right.

[underpants]

6. Oh I see

I wouldn't hald my breath on that. If the media is questioning Kerry about mistakes of W's administration they sure as hell aren't going to cover someone who could hurt W.

[MsTryska]

7. Maybe we should give the LP a little support....

I can't believe thew media is paying him no attention and nader gets so much. granted nader had a name before he even decided to run in 2000 but still.


And really - i tend to like most of the Libertarians I meet. well not the ones that rabidly try to convert me, but many of them are downright sensible. altho i hold totally different views, these are people i can debate with in a sensible, unemotional way, unlike the fascists masquerading as republicans these days.

[I_like_chicken]

8. I think I agree with them on social issues

but when it comes to economic issues, they're a bit cucoo. They want to deregulate everything, and they beleive the free market is a pancea for all our social ills.

Socially, they want to completely end the war on drugs, and they want to make sure the government can't interfere in your life, something I agree with.

[MsTryska]

10. Yeah - that's my roadblock as well.....

the fiscal issues are wacky, and i think it's pretty damn naive to think Big Business would regulate itself, and people would take care of each other, if the laws weren't forcing them to.


But Socially for the most part i do agree. And a flat tax would be cool.

[smb]

16. They Are A Threat To The Religious Reich

If the Religious Reich pushes too far, then the faction that votes Republican because they want tax cuts but isn't interested in reverting to the seventeeth century might start jumping ship to the LP.

[LTR]

9. The Libertarians scare the media, methinks

They are consistently on state Presidential ballots. And they are going to get quite a few Bush protest votes this year.

Remember when O'Liely put up a challenge to debate anyone on his show? Well, a Hollywood producer volunteered his buddy, Badnarik, and O'Liely withdrew the offer. What does that tell you?

I don't know why the media ignores the Libertarians. The only time they got substantial press was a decade ago when Howard Stern ran (briefly) for NY Governor on the Lib ticket. Since then, nothing, save for Tommy Thompson's brother in Wisconsin, though there are RW radio talkers who claim to be Libertarian, such as Neil Boortz, who was booed off stage at a Libertarian event not too long ago. They're really Republicans trying to be cutting edge.

I'd like to see the Libertarians get more publicity. I agree with a few of their social positions, though they are a bit backward fiscally. And I'd like to see them in the polls. I'm sure Badnarik has to be polling 1-2% in many states.

[MsTryska]

11. Didn't Jessie originally run as a libertarian?

before becoming an independent?

[LTR]

12. Jesse Ventura?

He was the Reform Party candidate in 1998 - kind of a Perot disciple. I think Dean Barkley (big Reform guy in Minnesota) lured him in. A few years later, Jesse got a bit peeved by the hijacking of the party by the Buchanan crowd, and went off on his own. This was a major blow to the Reform Party.

Jesse does have a Libertarian mindset for the most part, though.

[MsTryska]

13. Yeah, Ventura...

I could have sworn i had typed his whole name in my title, but maybe i was smoking crack. sorry about that.



oh and day is now night, and the sky is yellow - i agree with pat buchanan that bush bites the big one.

[smb]

17. A Debate Strategy

If Dubya keeps insisting that he wants to go AWOL from the "town meeting" debate, Kerry ought to publicly push for the Commission to invite the next candidate (in terms of state ballot listings). That is none other than Mr. Badnarik.

At worst, he get's Badnarik's name in the press and gives Dubya a taste of his own push-Nader medicine. At best, he actually gets the commission to go along and feeds Dubya a whole bottle of said medicine.

Placing an empty infant's high chair with Dubya's name prominently on the stage would also be a nice touch.

[LTR]

18. I like that

Both ideas.

[I_like_chicken]

19. I like the idea of debating Badnarik

but the Democrats would be way too scared to even think about doing something like that.

[LTR]

21. True, the Democrats don't have the balls to do something like that

But it is a great idea, and would scare the GOP shitless. But I'm sure Badnarik is game for it.

Even better - debate the Constitution Party guy. He'll scare the hell out of swing voters spouting much of the same crap the GOP does.

[MsTryska]

24. Why would the dems be scared? (nt)

[MsTryska]

23. oooh....that's a fiendishly good plan.

then a whole bunch of conservatives get turned on to the LP and they get a little media attention, and oh, soo sorry wussyboy.

[flpoljunkie]

14. Why? Because he would take votes from "he who must be propped up at

all costs" --you know, the emperor with no clothes.

[smb]

15. Actually, Badnarik Is On More Ballots

The LP has gotten on all but one ballot (and might make that one as well) according to Ballot Access News

[LTR]

20. They missed the NH deadline

And they're doing a little legal wrangling in Oklahoma.

But they're on the ballot in 48 states and DC, according to Badnarik's site.

[smb]

22. Erratum

I forgot that the "on 49 ballots, potentially on 50 ballots" figure includes DC (for a total of 51).

I'm surprised that Badnarik had any problem getting on the NH ballot; that state has a relatively high percentage of both capital and small "L" libertarians. The slippery hand of Karl Rove at work (and somehow not getting the publicity of the DNC/Nader catfights)?