why do people persist in bringing RW talking points here

[Rosa Luxemburg]

day after day we see the same names and brand new names bringing up the tabloid garbage. The RW talking points. Has it occurred to normal DUers that it is harmful to give these people the time of day?

PS. if you see a RW talking point let it sink - ignore. Mods should put a red flag on on each of these.

[polichick]

1. Is anything that hints there might be a problem a "RW talking point?"

[ClassWarrior]

6. Are you saying you can't identify a RW talking point when you see one?

I think any sensible, reasonably intelligent human being can tell the difference between legitimate criticism and a documented, oft-echoed RW talking point.

:shrug: Just sayin...

NGU.

[polichick]

9. I'm suggesting that the reactionaries on this site can't handle normal discussions...

...which "any sensible, reasonably intelligent human being" should have been able to figure out.

[ClassWarrior]

14. Well, if you're not spouting RW talking points, and they can't handle what you're saying...

...that's their problem, isn't it? :shrug:

NGU.

[polichick]

19. LOL - the point is some posters here brand anything a RW talking point if it dares to...

...suggest a problem with an administration decision.

Helpful hint: try less shrugging and more thinking.

[MercutioATC]

2. Because some people consider anything even remotely non-flattering to Obama a "RW Talking Point".

"The stimulus bill was/is little more than a Dem omnibus spending bill that will have limited value as an immediate stimulus plan"

RW talking point or honest criticism?

[bbinacan]

13. Excellent point.

I've been accused of using a RW talking point simply because they could/would not address my issue.

[ClassWarrior]

15. Some people consider dog poop diamonds, but that doesn't make it so.

We can all agree that a RW talking point has a very specific definition. It's a phrase or formulation that's repeated often in the RW media, and is framed from a RW perspective.

NGU.

[MercutioATC]

17. So is "The stimulus bill is mostly a Dem omnibus spending bill

that will have little immediate stimulative effect" a RW talking point?

It was repeated in the RW media...

[ClassWarrior]

18. "Dem omnibus spending bill" is definitely a RW talking point.

But if you remove that nasty little bit of RW framing, the rest of your statement could be legitimate criticism: "The stimulus bill will have little immediate stimulative effect."

NGU.

[MercutioATC]

20. But I really DO feel it was mostly a Dem omnibus spending bill.

Dem = Written and passed by Democrats

omnibus = Had less to do with immediate stimulus than funding a wide range of traditionally Democratic projects

spending = It cost a LOT of money

bill = Before it was made law, it was a bill


The phrase is completely appropriate, IMO.

[ClassWarrior]

21. Surrre...

Dem = Blamed on the Democrats

omnibus = Big. Really, REALLY BIG.

spending = Spending! Spending!! Spending!!!! (Even though anyone with half a brain knows that "stimulus" is "spending.")

bill = Okay, you got me there.

The phrase is repeated often in RW media -- it's one that has been for a long time -- and frames the issue from the RW perspective.

NGU.

[MercutioATC]

22. Well, Dems DID write it and pass it..

...and it DID send money to a wide variety of traditionally Dem-supported projects...

...and it DID spend a lot of money...


Of COURSE you need to spend money to stimulate the economy. Many (myself included) feel that this bill was less about actual stimulus than giving cash to Dem projects, though.

[polichick]

23. Do you study the official right-wing talking points every day??

Was "Dem omnibus spending bill" posted on a right-wing site that you read or sent in an email? Since most posters here don't waste time reading right-wing sites or get right-wing emails, where would they even see a list of talking points?

[JuniperLea]

3. I use hide thread...

Liberally:)

[mix]

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very cool, thanks!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

11. it is cool!

[JuniperLea]

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[Sebastian Doyle]

4. It's happened here for years now

Started when the DLC'ers moved in to harrass the Deaniacs in 2003.

[Median Democrat]

5. A Lot Of DUers Fail To Distinguish Between This Forum and "Latest Breaking News"

Don't just spam articles on this board without any comments. That is what Latest Breaking News is for. Its annoying, because it is often unclear whether person posting the articles agrees or disagrees with the post. Quote the article if you must, but this is a discussion forum, so discuss. Don't spam, particularly if the article is obvious troll bait.

[Saturday]

7. I like reading them, the answers from other DUers give me ideas

for combacks on other sites I go to. Sometimes I say to myself, "duh, why didn't I think of that, that's a great refute to a RW talking points (and I use it)." LOL

[Rosa Luxemburg]

10. you could look at it that way! LOL!

however, you must be drained after reading all those posts!

[treestar]

16. That is exactly it - it is easier to debate when there is some warning

and some exposure to others' ideas. If we ignored the RWers, we might not know what to say to refute them right away, and they take that as agreement or worse.

[Ilsa]

30. Yes! Absolutely! And I want to know what RW are squirming about, too. nt

[Butch350]

24. I quess it's called free speech??

[NavyDavy]

25. read the rules....this is a Dem site not a RW site so to attack

Dems here with a RWer smear is wrong!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

27. bought speech?

[annabanana]

26. (some are paid). . . ... .n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

28. I think that is so

[Hansel]

29. Tom Hartman said today that one of the right winger who use to call

his show all of the time finally admitted that he was not only being paid to call his radio show, but that he and countless other people were being paid to post on popular progressive blogs. That's pretty obvious.

I'm guessing a lot of concern trolls here fall in this category.