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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:58 AM
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NYT - Paul Krugman Criticizes European Nations For NOT Following Obama's Lead - MUST IGNORE!
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 02:00 AM by Median Democrat
I know that many mainstream publications, and sometimes Krugman himself, have painted Paul Krugman as this attack dog who is denouncing al of Barack Obama's policies. I have repeatedly explained and noted that the mainstream media has simply ignored the numerous times Krugman has generally agreed with Obama's approach, and has instead focused and exagerrated the areas of disagreement. Sadly, Paul Krugman himself has also sometimes used very theatric language in order to draw attention to his critiques, which of course overshadows the broad areas of AGREEMENT he has with Obama's policies.

So, here is another column show how Paul Krugman generally agrees with Obama. Now, watch how this column is ignored by DUers and the mainstream media the same way Krugman's general agreement with Obama on (1) the stimulus, (2) the mortgage plan, and (3) the budget are generally ignored.

If econonomic principles and self-interest do apply, then this could create a strong incentive for Paul Krugman to write even more scathing critiques of Obama, since Krugman's agreements with Obama are so quickly ignored by the press and liberals.

Do I think that several DUers have an anti-liberal/democrat agenda in choosing to focus and exagerate the areas of disagreement between the Obama administration and liberals? Yes, I do. There is a systamatic effort to exagerate differences, as the efforts by many folks to minimize or ignore the agreas of agreement between the Obama administration and liberals will demonstrate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/30/opinion/30krugman.html?_r=1

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Like many other economists, I’ve been revisiting the Great Depression, looking for lessons that might help us avoid a repeat performance. And one thing that stands out from the history of the early 1930s is the extent to which the world’s response to crisis was crippled by the inability of the world’s major economies to cooperate.

The details of our current crisis are very different, but the need for cooperation is no less. President Obama got it exactly right last week when he declared: “All of us are going to have to take steps in order to lift the economy. We don’t want a situation in which some countries are making extraordinary efforts and other countries aren’t.”

Yet that is exactly the situation we’re in. I don’t believe that even America’s economic efforts are adequate, but they’re far more than most other wealthy countries have been willing to undertake. And by rights this week’s G-20 summit ought to be an occasion for Mr. Obama to chide and chivy European leaders, in particular, into pulling their weight.

But these days foreign leaders are in no mood to be lectured by American officials, even when — as in this case — the Americans are right.

The financial crisis has had many costs. And one of those costs is the damage to America’s reputation, an asset we’ve lost just when we, and the world, need it most.


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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 02:10 AM
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1. I doubt many of the people citing Krugman have...
actually read anything Krugman wrote. It's easier to quote an article cherrypicking Krugman to prove some point.

(Kinda like how people cite the Bible to prove any point they feel like making.)
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:47 PM
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5. The Differences Are Exaggerated and Highlighted And Agreement Is Ignored
I do think that the mainstream media and certain trolls are pushing a right wing agenda in pushing such areas of disagreement while ignoring the large areas of agreement between Krugman and Obama.
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Baikonour Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 02:25 PM
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12. People also cherry pick Krugman comments when criticizing him, too.
In fact, they do it more often than when complimenting.

But you're right, not many people on either side of Krugman's fence have probably ever read his literature.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 02:12 AM
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2. kr
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:09 AM
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3. sounds like more gloom and doom to me.
He writes...
America’s reputation,
an asset we’ve lost just when we,
and the world,
need it most.



Perhaps if "some" folks exhibited a little confidence
in the President's underestimated political skills
to do what needs to be done at the Summit,
this writing would feel slightly more intense and assertive,
which is what is needed at the moment.



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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 04:38 AM
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4. I remain a Krugman fan
and yet I am also an Obama believer. Perhaps it is just my addled senior brain, but I don't understand why some on DU believe that one can't be both.

I also get tired of the cherry-picking of Krugman's comments that I see in some threads here on DU. So maybe he doesn't get every single thing right ... he's still pretty darn good. I have seen with my own eyes exactly what *'s eight years of policies did to the US's reputation abroad ... it is *, his group of war criminals and all their enablers who helped us to lose it. It wasn't Obama's policies that failed us ... it was theirs. So yes, Krugman is right; Obama has an uphill row to plow and it won't be easy. Merely recognizing that shouldn't detract either from Krugman for saying it or from Obama who is making sincere efforts to improve the situation.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:53 PM
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6. Krugman - get help, you're contradicting yourself
If you truly believe Obama's plan is horrible/ineffective, then why would you expect the European nations to follow suit?
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 02:00 PM
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7. You beat me to it!
Great question!
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 02:07 PM
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8. Lord, have mercy! Did you READ the column?
-snip-
President Obama got it exactly right last week when he declared: “All of us are going to have to take steps in order to lift the economy. We don’t want a situation in which some countries are making extraordinary efforts and other countries aren’t.”

Yet that is exactly the situation we’re in. I don’t believe that even America’s economic efforts are adequate, but they’re far more than most other wealthy countries have been willing to undertake. And by rights this week’s G-20 summit ought to be an occasion for Mr. Obama to chide and chivy European leaders, in particular, into pulling their weight.

But these days foreign leaders are in no mood to be lectured by American officials, even when — as in this case — the Americans are right.
-snip-
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 02:09 PM
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9. What is with the "You're either with Obama or against Obama" attitude around here?
geez
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 02:18 PM
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10. So NOW "the Americans are right". LOL! Krugman trying to cover his tracks ...
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 02:24 PM by jefferson_dem
with Jekyll and Hyde in full effect. :crazy:
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 04:21 PM
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14. The Americans are not doing enough, but are doing much more than most countries.
That seems like a very straightforward concept to me. Sorry you see everything in black and white and don't understand the concept of shades of gray.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 04:40 PM
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15. The 24/7 Cable News Spin Cycle Demands Talking Points and Absolutes!
Likewise, many folks on this board refuse to be bothered with questions of degree. Overall, Krugman is in general agreement with many aspects of Obama's plan. However, the mainstream media and certain DU trolls continue to exagerate the scope of the disagreement to the point of suggesting that Krugman has more in common with Republicans than he does with the Obama administration.

I do give Krugman some fault on this, because he likes to write in a fairly incendiary style such that his statements taken out of context give the impression that he is 100% against Obama's economic proposals, which is totally inaccurate.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 02:21 PM
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11. Nice failed attempt to Spin Krugman's blaming of Obama. Too bad Krugman gets it wrong (again)
"The financial crisis has had many costs. And one of those costs is the damage to America’s reputation, an asset we’ve lost just when we, and the world, need it most."

Our reputation was already damaged goods. Countries stopped listening to us during Bush's Administration.

Krugman refers to Obama as "...Mr. Obama..." and "...American officials..." in a completely disrespectful tone.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 02:41 PM
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13. Your reading comprehension is seriously flawed.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 04:46 PM
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16. Schitzophrenia can be treated these days fairly easily. Krugman should look into some lithium tabs.
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