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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 08:49 AM Original message |
Some here falsely believe Obama Bailed Out AIG |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. yeah, AIG was from TARP which was Bushy and the dem congress |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
51. Actually, the first AIG bailout was by the Fed BEFORE TARP passed |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-31-09 07:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
62. Obama supported the TARP, remember? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. Oh quit making sense! n/t |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
3. Obama said it was right thing to do because the ramifications would have been catastrophic if we let |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
55. And he's right. And you're right. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
4. Voted "Yea," however. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. To prevent 2. from happening. Please try again though. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Except 2 hasn't been prevented. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Actually, it did prevent a global economic collapse. But I get the impression you don't care. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. It prevented no such thing |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
56. If you think this is the "shitter" you have no idea what life would have been like if AIG failed. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
46. How do you know what it 'prevented'? |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
50. Mutually exclusive. Bzzt! Try again. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
52. The AIG bailout was by the Fed and was done BEFORE the TARP bailout |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Fair enough...yet... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-31-09 06:23 AM Response to Reply #54 |
60. True - down thread somone has an article showing that |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
5. Buzzkill. Now hundreds are going to have to scramble to find some other reason to whine. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
6. If only AIG would unionize its workers |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. If only they made cars like Honda, Toyota and Nissan |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. There's an idea |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
36. Nobody is buying those cars anymore! Their sales have collapsed. |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
10. and a few minutes ago some 527 just blitzed CNN with an ad |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
12. The OP is factually inaccurate. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. That link says nothing about Obama. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. It says that the Federal Government gave AIG $30 billion at the beginning of March |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Set into motion last year. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Nope. These are new outlays approved by the Obama admin this year. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. And Obama needs to keep troops in Iraq and approve new money for it. A problem inherited |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. LOL. Goalposts: MOVED! nt |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. You've got nothing so you make a baseless claim. Nice. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. LOL. I'm the troll? You haven't proven anything. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Deleted message |
berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Is that board FreeRepublic.com? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Nope. But this one may as well be some days. nt |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Which were set into motion by the original bailout. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. "Set into motion" sounds like weasel talk. Obama approved the current outlays, as you admit. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Obama worked for the approval of TARP which bailed out the auto industry |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. LOLOL. Now you are just making shit up! nt |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Google TARP GM 13.4 |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. That is not what I was referring to, Mr. Bozo. I was referring to your obfuscation |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Name-calling. That says everything about you that people need to know |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
53. The Fed, headed by Bernacke is independent |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
57. So you're suggesting we let the first $150 billion go to waste and let it fail now. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
14. Obama is bailing out the auto industry. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
58. Um, no he's actually not. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
21. Which bailout? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. GM has also already received government money. 13.4 billion to be exact. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. AIG recieved $30 billion in March (no strings attached!) nt |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Set into motion last year. GM also has received 13.4 billion (as well as other automakers). |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Authorized by the Obama admin THIS YEAR. nt |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. I wish you the best of luck on educating some on this board |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. To be able to educate others.. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Not sure what that even means. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. But the premise of this thread was that Obama opposed bailouts to AIG. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. No it was not. I never made that claim. The premise is that he *did not* bail out AIG. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
45. Golly, that's true. But Obama came out and endorsed the bailout |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. He also lobbied for TARP which gave TENS OF BILLIONS to the Auto Industry and which GM |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Not bailing out AIG would have led to economic collapse? THAT |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Do you know what would have happened to the world if AIG failed? |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-31-09 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
61. Many of the suppliers supply more than one auto company. |
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Christa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-31-09 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
63. K & R nt |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-31-09 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
64. DU poutrage-mongers have no need for facts because their agendas don't include honest dialogue. |
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