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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 11:41 PM
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The Bailout Double Standard And The Revival Of Reaganism


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/the-bailout-double-standa_b_181473.html

David Sirota
Posted March 31, 2009 | 06:44 PM (EST)

The Bailout Double Standard And The Revival Of Reaganism

I appeared on Rachel Maddow's MSNBC show last night to discuss the seeming double standard between the Obama administration's treatment of car companies and Wall Street firms. You can watch it here.

There is clearly a double standard at work: Just a few days ago, Wall Street executives were hosted at the White House for a cheery photo op and reassurance that they will be getting hundreds of billions more in no-strings-attached bailout cash. Then this week, Obama demanded the firing of GM's CEO, and said he may withhold the mere $30 billion or so that the automakers are requesting.

I'm not saying that automakers don't deserve to be pushed around, nor am I saying even that GM's CEO shouldn't have been fired. What I am saying, however, is that there are two different standards at work here.

Why? Shockingly, the Politico quotes "a Democratic official close to the White House" as saying the president has "more confidence in the leadership on the banking side - that there are people in place who understand what went wrong and the steps necessary to deal with this disaster." How anyone could have confidence in banking executives at a time like this is, as I said, shocking. But, then, this is a White House chock full of longtime Wall Street allies - a White House that appointed corporate raider Steve Rattner to head the auto bailout, a White House who the Wall Street Journal today reports is aiming to use the bailout to force autoworkers to accept cuts to their health care benefits.

What's fascinating about all this is the surprising revival of tactics first pioneered under Ronald Reagan.

Last year, you may recall that Obama took some flack for seeming to idealize The Gipper. However you felt about those comments, I think we're seeing that they previewed an effort to emulate Reagan's tactics - in particular, when it comes to bailouts.

Reagan famously backed a massive increase in the defense budget and corporate welfare while pretending to be a budget hawk by bemoaning the supposed wastefulness of programs like welfare - programs whose expenditures were tiny in comparison to those on the Pentagon and corporate welfare.

Likewise, we've seen Obama support giving away hundreds of billions of dollars - no strings attached - to Wall Street banks while simultaneously presenting himself as getting tough on Corporate America with his promise to hold the auto industry accountable for its failures. Of course, the automakers are asking for a tiny fraction of what Wall Street has already gotten.

It's the same paradigm. Hand out huge sums of cash to powerful political constituencies (for Reagan, defense contractors; for Obama, Wall Street), withhold a relatively small amount of cash from disempowered political constituencies (for Reagan, welfare recipients; for Obama, struggling automakers) - then cite the latter action as proof of "toughness," and hope nobody remembers the former largesse.

Again, I'm not saying the auto industry doesn't deserve to be pushed around - but I am saying that in embracing this brazen double standard, the Obama administration (at least when it comes to the issue of bailouts) is resurrecting the fundamentally dishonest tenets of Reaganism, and that's not a good sign.

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 11:48 PM
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1. Actually I was hoping we could talk about Michelle some more and how lovely she is.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:23 AM
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6. Jindal looks like an alien in that picture.
Or like a giant puppet...
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 11:50 PM
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2. Looks like you're marvelling in your
own fame, time to

STEP. AWAY. FROM .YOUR. COMPUTER.

PUT. THE. MOUSE. DOWN. AND. STEP.

AWAY.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:19 AM
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3. Wall Street=1, Main Street =0 n/t
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:36 PM
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30. GM is not main street
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:19 AM
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4. What does this have to do with Michelle?
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:22 AM
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5. I agree about the double standard and it started back in
September 2008.

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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:25 AM
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7. I suspect our global crisis, US made, requires finesse/depth Sirota has never learned.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:53 AM
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8. What exactly is Sirota wrong about? n/t
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:46 AM
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12. The bailout money is not in the form of handouts. We have shares that will be paid
back. Also, I find it odd they say "no strings attached" when the banks are screaming about how they want to pay back their TARP funds as soon as they can because they hate how they have to disclose their lending practices.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:56 AM
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27. They got a sweetheart deal
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 09:57 AM by Raineyb
We've got preferred shares which we overpaid for and don't pay that much in dividends assuming we'll ever make any money on it. We are not going to see that money back.

The banks are screaming because they don't like that people are demanding strings. The strings aren't really firmly attached to it yet and it appears that the strings aren't attached until after the companies have already managed to screw the taxpayer yet again.

This is a handout. What are they going to do if the banks won't pay us back? Nationalize it? They seem not at all inclined to do that.

I'll stick with Sirota, Krugman, and Stiglitz on this one. I damn sure don't trust Geithner.

Regards
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:35 PM
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29. Krugman and Stiglitz have never said this is a handout we are getting nothing for.
We are getting dividends at a rate that was legally arranged and will not fluctuate. The shares we bought are not determined by the market. They have a relatively fixed value.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:22 PM
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34. In other words we paid too much for them n/t
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:30 PM
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36. No. These aren't marketable. That's not the point of them.
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 09:30 PM by Zynx
They have a value that the banks have to repay us for. For example, when Goldman Sachs pays us back soon like they say they will so they can get out from under the oversight, I guarantee you we will get the full amount we gave them back plus any interest they paid us.

The risk is if one of these institutions fails. Then it is more complicated.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:06 PM
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32. Don't you think blaming the U.S. is unpatriotic?
Even when Obama was asked if the U.S. was to blame, he patriotically tap danced around the answer. But hey, he wouldn't want to upset his banking buds.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 03:58 AM
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9. wow that is amazing, but what about this?

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Brucie Kibbutz Donating Member (704 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:24 AM
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10. great post K&R
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:07 AM
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20. you should be tombstoned for using that picture.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:40 AM
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22. Epic fail. n/t
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:46 AM
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23. when are you gonna bring back the bouncing mouse avatar?
:hi:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:55 AM
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26. Houston, we have a problem.
:hi:

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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:04 AM
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28. he ate the mouse?! NOOOOoooo
:cry:
;)
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 12:50 AM
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37. I second the Tombstoning
DU Admin is far to lax with that photo IMO
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:28 AM
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11. Tell Trotsky.
He will lend you a willing ear: That's of course unless the ice pick pissed it.

Viva Stalin!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:26 PM
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35. Is That Really the Best You've Got?
Coming to a site that was built by the disgruntled left, you think calling someone a "Trotskyite" is going to be taken seriously, as an insult?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Care to rebut the article?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:50 AM
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13. This is an extremely poorly written piece from an analytical perspective.
The first point that I just need to address and then all other points don't need addressing is that he defines Reaganism in a way I've never seen it. The second is that I am curious what exactly Sirota's position is on the financial crisis and whether he simply thinks we should have just let these firms collapse and take whoever with them they may. If that was his position, that would explain an awful lot here.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:31 AM
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14. Yes on the collapse question, it would've caused a depression. These idiots don't realize those 10..
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 06:32 AM by uponit7771
...banks do 80 percent of consumer lending which means no M2 if they failed (bank dept into GDP) to make up wage gap of workers needed to feed GDP and by food mostly due to Reaganist type fight against raising minimum wage.

Conservatives thought they could make up wage gap by lowering taxes which works for about 3 years and that's it IE; conservative economies don't go very far in a country ran by and with the middle class.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:34 AM
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15. Michelle has great arms, and her husband has a winning smile. nt
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:19 AM
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16. Do you spend all day everyday scouring and searching any and
everywhere for screeds against the administration?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:12 AM
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21. Short answer: yes. nt
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:33 AM
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17. As usual, Sirota comes across as a posturing teenager in need of attention
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 08:32 AM
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18. My, my, my, still not over the bitterness of the Obamas not choosing a...
Westie it seems.

Oh, and Michelle ROCKS!!
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:04 AM
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19. your bitter tears are like nectar to my soul.
yeah, obama is just like reagan... not...
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:48 AM
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24. What a load of Dung
"Wall Street executives were hosted at the White House for a cheery photo op and reassurance that they will be getting hundreds of billions more in no-strings-attached bailout cash"

There are plenty of strings attached. With more being added as we go forward.

This guy just wants to bitch.

And the idea that Obama idolizes Reagan is ludicrous. The fact that he recognizes Regan's impact does not mean he idolizes him. Anyone making such a comment is immediately dismissed by me as a primary loser.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:51 AM
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25. i have liked sirota's articles in the past, but what is it with every dipshit with a blog suddenly
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 09:52 AM by dionysus
thinking they are economic experts?

:shrug:
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:01 PM
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31. I know, the nerve. A lot of those dipshits argued that the
repeal of Glass-Steagall would lead to a disaster but those experts like Larry Summers sure proved them wrong. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:18 PM
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33. Energy crisis, perhaps?
American car companies, generally have been doing a terrible job. I think Obama is right to have less confidence in them. All these years they have fought stricter fuel-efficiency standards which has contributed to our energy woes. I think it's pretty self-evident why GM is being treated differently from Wall Street firms.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:37 AM
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38. Your post is illogical. The banks have also done a terrible job. nt
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