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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:45 PM
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Bayh And Nelson Vote Against Obama Budget Because It ‘Costs Too Much,’ But Support Costly Estate Tax

Bayh And Nelson Vote Against Obama Budget Because It ‘Costs Too Much,’ But Support Costly Estate Tax Bill

Last night, the Senate passed President Obama’s budget in a 55-43 vote. While not a single Republican broke with their party to vote yes on the measure, two “moderate” Democrats — Sens. Evan Bayh (D-IN) and Ben Nelson (D-NE) — voted no. Nelson defended his vote in a prepared statement:

The administration inherited a lot of red ink in this budget, along with our ailing economy. But this budget still has trillion dollar-plus deficits in the next two years, and adds unsustainably to the debt. These are tough times, and the federal government needs to take a lesson from American families and cut down on the things we can do without.

I respect the Administration offering an honest budget…but it just costs too much.

Similarly, Bayh issued a statement saying he opposed the budget in an attempt to be the voice of “fiscal responsibility“:

(U)nder this budget, our national debt skyrockets from $11.1 trillion today to an estimated $17 trillion in 2014. As a percentage of our gross domestic product, it reaches a precarious 66.5 percent. The deficit remains larger than our projected economic growth, an unsustainable state of affairs. This budget will increase our borrowing from and dependence upon foreign nations. I cannot support such results. We can do better, and for the sake of our nation and our children’s future, we must.

But if Bayh and Nelson are really concerned about the cost of the budget, why then did they also vote yesterday in favor of a $250 billion tax cut for the rich? As the AP explains, Bayh and Nelson along with eight other “moderate” Democrats broke with Obama and voted to reduce estate taxes from which 99.7 percent of Americans were already exempt.

Further, as the Washington Post wrote yesterday, “Reducing the estate tax harm charities because it eliminates some of the incentive for making charitable bequests — yet some of the very senators who back estate tax cuts were quick to denounce Obama administration tax proposals that they argued would hurt charitable giving.” Among those who opposed Obama’s proposal to reduce tax deductions for charitable giving: Bayh and Nelson.

For Bayh’s part, it’s unclear why he’s standing in the way of the agenda his constituents voted in support of last November. Yglesias suggests, “Bayh just made a decision of conscience and principle to stand with Mitch McConnell and Jim DeMint on the most important domestic policy vote of his career.”

UPDATE Ezra Klein notes that Bayh, while garnering an exceedingly liberal voting record during the 109th Congress as he prepared to run for president, became the Democratic caucus's most conservative member in the 110th Congress. Klein explains further that when put in the context of his record since 2001, Bayh's recent turn to the right represents "a sharp break in his voting patterns."


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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:49 PM
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1. Hypocrisy knows no party boundaries ... we've got "schizos" too
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 01:49 PM by LSparkle
I just can't believe the same "moderates" who are so concerned
about spending are many of the ones who supported this giveaway.

:shakesheadindisbelief:

NO MORE DINOS!!!! PRIMARY CHALLENGERS WANTED!!!!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:49 PM
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2. DINOs
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:50 PM
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3. Purge, the bastards
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:58 PM
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20. Purge the god-damned bastards
:P
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:52 PM
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4. Hey, Ben, how's your loser-ass drunk of a son (4 DUI's!) doing in jail?
Asshole.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:55 PM
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8. Thanks for that. I'm new around these parts and had no idea
about his son. I've given up on emailing and calling. He's a republican, plain and simple. He should have just run as one. I can't stand him.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:59 PM
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10. It was in the World Herald about a week ago. Every once in a while
Benny will do or say something vaguely Democratic/progressive, but the rest of the time he postures for the Nebraska GOP. He's all about protecting his job by sucking up to them--nothing more, nothing less.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:10 PM
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13. He'll never get a vote from me. Obama was able to get one
electoral vote out of this place. He needs to man up. I hope someone willing to be a real democrat runs against him or I'll skip it.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:53 PM
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5. Glad to see it was only those two Dems who voted Nay - Bayh's group had me worried.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:53 PM
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7. Me too. I'll take what I can get.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:22 PM
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15. Time to seat Franken, now.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:53 PM
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6. The last link (Ezra Klein) has a neat chart of Bayh's voting record:
Suggests his turn to the left a couple years ago was in preparation for his presidential bid.

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:59 PM
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9. Remember when Bayh was being talked about for VP?
Sooooo glad it was all talk.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:08 PM
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11. so again the repigs did not vote Yes
I have a message to those who believe in this bipartisan crap, forget the repigs and move on, we did win the election!!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:08 PM
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12. Ben Nelson votes with the repubics around 90% of the time. He
used to brag about how much he supported the bush** admin. He probably still does behind closed doors.

Never expect any help from Ben Nelson.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:28 PM
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17. So we risk nothing in looking for a primary challenger. nt
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:48 PM
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18. Not a damn thing.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:59 PM
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21. If it wasn't for this one thing I did...
I would run against him!
:evilgrin:
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:08 PM
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27. I get why red state Dems like Nelson are pretty conservative
But I still can't wrap my head around him declaring to his constituents in Western Nebraska that their income should be taxed at a much higher rate than the inheritances of trust fund baby elitists on the coasts.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:20 PM
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14. Evan Bayh is quickly becoming
the new Lieberman. I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to become an 'Independent' soon.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:27 PM
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16. It's okay. Obama's keeping score.
Hope you weren't planning on any help getting reelected, fuckwads.

As a matter of fact, it's probably time to search for some primary challengers.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:57 PM
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19. Couple of corrupt Republicrats
every bit as hypocritical- and their actions are illustrative of the dysfunctional nature of the US Senate.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:23 PM
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22. The estate tax on the top 1% of the population should be 100%
It's time the Rockefellers, Bush Crime Family, and yes, even the Kennedys worked for a living like everyone else. Fuck this perpetually rich semi-royalty bullshit.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:26 PM
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23. Bayh is among the lowest of the low in the Democratic Party. nt
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:11 PM
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24. Bayh is the bankers" LAPDOG1
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:16 PM
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25. Fuck you, bayh and ben nelson..
why don't you just get on with your party change?
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:01 PM
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26. I guess the "D" after their names stands for "douchebag"
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