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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:06 PM
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Anyone notice Obama's approval ratings have gone up the past three days?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

On the 30th, he was at 59-30 and today he's at 63-27.

It's safe to say Americans are proud of the job Obama is doing on the international stage.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:12 PM
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1. You'd never know it, given the relentless attacks on him here at DU.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:27 PM
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5. My thought exactly. These days, the only difference between DU and Freeperland...
... is that DU allows dissenting opinions against the wave of GOP talking points.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 10:02 PM
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9. Go to FR and get back to us with this "no difference" shit.
Yeah, there's attacks on Obama here, some that go too far. There isn't death threats, there isn't raging homophobia, racism and sexism. Your comment is on the exact same level as when Nader said there was no difference between the Dems and Repubs.

And let me ask, if it really was as bad as you claim, why hang around? What would that say about you? :shrug:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 09:34 AM
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25. My participation has dropped to near zero.
The only group making any traction around here is the anti-Obama crowd, such as those DUers who think anything with even a whiff of money is evil and, thus, those who think the economy should go ahead and tank and Obama should use his political office to prosecute their enemies. Gratefully, some of us are given the latitude to challenge these notions, but the dissenting voices are becoming fewer.

It seems you revel in the cesspool that DU has become. That's great for you and those of a like mind.

And for your information, I hang around (and post about 5 times per week) out of the fading hope that DU will someday wake up and the memebers will stop acting like spoiled children.

By the way, inviting those people who disgree with you to leave the board is the retreat of a Freeper asshole. Thanks for making that point in spades for me, bubba. Right on cue.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 02:46 PM
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36. Cut and paste from top GD:P threads. (I accidently erased one when cleaning up the paste)
Have you seen Obama's speech in full on your television or on the Internet? (Poll) Click here to hide this thread FrenchieCat
Oscar de la Renta has tough words for Michelle Obama Click here to hide this thread Thrill Sun Apr-05-09 01:42 PM
We Slept When Clinton/Summers Raped the Middle Class; We're Sleeping Again Click here to hide this thread
Anyone notice Obama's approval ratings have gone up the past three days? Click here to hide this thread Drunken
Obama Calls for World Without Nuclear Weapons Click here to hide this thread masuki bance Sun Apr-05-09 01:37 PM 7
I just sent this letter to the mayor of Stamford CT Click here to hide this thread ashling Sun Apr-05-09 01:36 PM
Geithner denies White House sidestepping CEO pay limits (updated) Click here to hide this thread ProSense Sun
How Would You Rank The Presidents From 1977 to Present From Liberal To Right Wing Nut Click here to hide this thread
RASMUSSEN SILLINESS: 57% Want Military Response to North Korea Missile Launch Click here to hide this thread jefferson_dem
LAT - Slams CNN's Ed Henry As Example of WH Reporters Trying To Be The News (Better Late Than Never) Click here to hide this
What do you dislike most about DU? (Poll) Click here to hide this thread Number23 Sun Apr-05-09 01:32 PM
Does anyone know who other than Jackie O among First Lady's Click here to hide this thread Top Cat Sun Apr-05-09 \
Signs that our country is under great stress? Click here to hide this thread Undercurrent Sun Apr-05-09 01:29 PM 8 \
PHOTOS Michelle's Day (Prague, April 5) Click here to hide this thread Jackeens Sun Apr-05-09 01:27 PM 14 4 \
Oh, No, He DIY'NT!!! Click here to hide this thread NanceGreggs Sun Apr-05-09 01:21 PM 64 71 2879
To me, the NRA argument works with criminals but falls apart when it comes to psychopaths. Click here to hide this
Time to bring back "let it sink"??? Click here to hide this thread TLM Sun Apr-05-09 01:20 PM 63 7
Jackie Speier bill establishes Women's Commission Click here to hide this thread biopowertoday Sun Apr-05-09 01:16 PM
NYT: Tom Friedman's "Obama's Big, Bold Bet" (economy) Click here to hide this thread
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You are dramatically exaggerating the quantity of anti-Obama threads. Your beliefs do not conform to reality.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 06:17 AM
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43. You've got to be kidding. You really want this?
Are you saying that I couldn't easily find 10 times that number of anti-Obama posts on this board?
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 08:50 AM
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44. Those were the top threads at the time I read the post.
I did not go looking for those. They were just the top 19. I have done this several times to several similar claims. Every time I just used the top threads in GD: P. There was absolutely no searching involved. Do you understand that? The vast majority of threads here on DU are not anti-Obama. Less than 10% of the threads here are anti-Obama.
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 11:41 PM
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18. My personal belief is that there are some Freeper trolls here "stirring things up."
Well, fuck 'em.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:08 PM
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26. Not just some. LOTS.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:12 PM
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2. just as attacks on him by DU have intensified... hmmmm...
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:24 PM
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4. I think the attacks are being orchestrated by Rethuglican forces. We never had such negativity befor
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:27 PM
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6. a lot of these attacks are from some longtime DU "progressives" who are...
...lashing out because they're not getting what they want from Obama.

It's history repeating itself. The same group on the left that has dogged Bill Clinton are now turning there anger to Obama.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 10:37 PM
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11. Could you imagine DU in the 90s?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 02:02 PM
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32. or the 30s and 60s when the left despised FDR and Kennedy
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 02:25 PM
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33. I've found the FDR comments more perplexing today.
You know, leftists saying Obama is no FDR when back during the Great Depression, many far-left supporters were cringing at his policies because, in their words, it didn't do enough.

Sounds so familiar.

Obama is exactly in the position FDR was back during the 30s. The far-left thinks he's doing too little and the far-right thinks he's doing too much, while the rest of the country is just fine with it.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 02:39 PM
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35. absolutely nailed it.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 02:48 PM
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37. yes yes yes
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 10:51 PM
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12. thats true now tell me if Nafta,1996 telecommunications act,repealing Glass Steagall were good
for America ?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 02:39 PM
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34. I have a better idea
Since "progressives" are always wailing away about NAFTA (Jimmy Carter's and Al Gore's favorite bill) and the telecom act, tell me exactly what's wrong with those. And I would like to see some stats and figures instead of the same regurgitated left wing bile.

As for (again!) Glass Steagall

1. The Republicans controlled the Congress.
2. There was a significant difference between the original Senate and House versions
3. The Senate was deeply divided on the original version on a 54-44 party line vote.
4. The House was not so divided on its version, voting 343-86, so many Democrats voted for it.
5. The bill went into Conference and it was the Conference Report version that was eventually approved, 90-8-1 in the Senate, Democrats agreed to support the bill only after Republicans agreed to strengthen provisions of the Community Reinvestment Act, basically erasing Democratic opposition, and 362-57-15 in the House, making some small gains in Democratic support.
6. It was a veto proof vote.
7. It was signed on November 1999. Bills of this complexity usually take several months to become effective and several years because the implementation needs to be worked out.

Why don't we go back to actual media reports of the day and see what happened in regards to Bill Clinton (bold and comments in parenthesis mine:)

The deal was announced about 2 A.M. after a compromise was reached over the measure's effect on lending rules for the disadvantaged, the source of months of partisan bickering between the White House and Senator Phil Gramm, the Texas Republican who heads the banking committee.

It concludes decades of attempts to rewrite banking laws to catch up with a marketplace that has already experienced broad consolidations and the rise of financial conglomerates offering bank and brokerage accounts as well as insurance. …

While the measure is likely to enjoy broad bipartisan support, it has also been criticized. Some lawmakers and privacy groups say the legislation does not adequately protect consumers and will allow financial companies to share and sell private information about customer accounts. Other critics worry about the further consolidation of the financial services industry. …

The breakthrough in Friday's legislation came in a backroom meeting at the Capitol soon after midnight, when a group of moderate Senate Democrats -- led by Christopher Dodd of Connecticut and Charles E. Schumer of New York -- forced a compromise between Gramm and the White House over the legislation's effect on the Community Reinvestment Act, a 1977 anti-discrimination law intended to encourage lending to minorities and others historically denied access to credit.

(WAIT! Chris Dodd, who KOS, posters on DU, and elseswhere claimed was such a gooood "progressive" forced a compromise with Clinton and the GOP! Say it ain't so!)

Dodd, whose state is home to the nation's largest insurance companies, and Schumer, with strong ties to Wall Street, have long sought legislation to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act. Both men said in interviews Friday that they moved to strike a compromise after it became apparent that the legislation might be killed, as it was last year by Gramm, over the debate about the Community Reinvestment Act. …

But the White House found that provision unacceptable and had its own ideas about community lending. It wanted the legislation to prevent any bank with an unsatisfactory record of making loans to the disadvantaged from expanding into new areas, like insurance or securities. …

(Bill Clinton wanted THAT progressive piece of legislation?? Wait! "Progressives" didn't tell me that!!!)

When Gramm's measure was defeated by one vote, it quickly became clear that there would be no law unless Gramm could get some Democrats to break from the White House.

But Administration officials had spent all day making sure that the Democrats remained solidly against the measure until their concerns about the Community Reinvestment Act could be worked out

(Oh, ok, so Gramm was working to get enough Democratic votes to make this sucker veto proof, and Clinton held out until his concerns about the Community Reinvestment Act could be worked out! Imagine that!)

http://partners.nytimes.com/library/financial/102399banks-congress.html



So what do we see in that article? That the White House had been pushing back on this act for months. That certain Congressional Dems, Dodd and Schumer foremost, explicitly wanted to kill Glass-Steagall. That the White House fought them as well as Gramm on this issue. That the White House rallied Democrats to present a solid front to the measure, requiring that the Community Reinvestment Act be protected, which some Congressional Dems were just as happy to toss out along with all other protections.

Think back to earlier in this article when I pointed out what the votes were for this Act. This bill was barely opposed by Congress except for the language in the Senate version to kill the CRA. When Gramm backed down on that, there was overwhelming support. The vote was veto-proof. If Clinton had vetoed it, with a Republican controlled Congress and a majority of Democrats behind it, he would have been very publically rebuked by his own party in the form of an over-ride. It would have given the Republicans another arrow for the “anti-business Democrats” quiver.

Now, remember back to the discussion about the CRA and how long it took after passage to make it effective. The GLBA, a far more complex act, was signed in November of 1999. In 2000, we were looking forward to Gore’s election. This Act would have been implemented under Gore’s supervision, the wonk to beat all wonks. Thus, when Bush took over in 2001, and an entirely new form of financial services industry was charging forward, there was no attempt or interest in providing substantive policies and regulations to prevent exploitation of its provisions. Nope, we were playing by Enron Rules. This Act is the Republicans’ baby, passed with the enthusiastic support of Congressional democrats who would not even have cared about the CRA provisions if Bill Clinton has not told them he would veto it without those protections.

Thus, GLBA was yet another episode in spineless Democrats capitulating to, oh, excuse me, acting in bipartisan accord with greed-head Republicans, and then blaming Clinton for signing what they strongly supported (and "progressives," being the political novices that they are) are more than willing to see this in black/white thinking - which is why the progressive movement has never won power.

When "progressives" are forced to confront the inconvenient truth that it passed with a veto-proof majority, you take the really odd approach that Clinton did nothing to stop it or the even weirder nit pic that he smiled when he signed it. :eyes:

But in that Times piece we see the White House had been pushing back on this act for months. That certain Congressional Dems, Dodd and Schumer foremost, explicitly wanted to kill Glass-Steagall. That the White House fought them as well as Gramm on this issue. That the White House rallied Democrats to present a solid front to the measure, requiring that the Community Reinvestment Act be protected, which some Congressional Dems were just as happy to toss out along with all other protections.

So, as usual, when the facts are layed out and the history is examined, "progressives" find themselves on the wrong side of the truth.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:23 PM
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3. Yes. I check Gallup every day at 1pm!
Thanks for posting it! :hi:
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 09:24 AM
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23. Me too
I'm embarrassed to admit, but I still check Gallup every day...I'm glad they update it every day, because I've been going through polling withdrawal since the election.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:58 PM
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30. I'm addicted...
to checking that poll every day. His approval ratings put me in a good mood or bad mood the rest of the day depending how they move. :hi:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:49 PM
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7. I thought the Queen's press release exonerating Michelle of any protocol violation
was teh awesome.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:57 PM
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8. Not to mention every single English person on cable news has been GUSHING over the Obamas
and saying they took the country by storm and England is in LOVE with them! The coverage of them in both England and France is glowing! (When those who KNOW are speaking.)
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 10:03 PM
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10. No surprise. He's been impressive on the trip.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 10:53 PM
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13. Here ya go. Look ...
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 11:12 PM
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14. Which is why the RW noise machine is in overdrive over "bowing-gate". They...
have to chip away at those numbers. And the American populace, being quite fickled, it may well work. Remember how proud we were when Obama spoke in front of 250k cheering Germans? The media quickly began to compare it to a Hitler rally, and Obama's numbers dropped a bit. Expect the same treatment in this instance.

We've got DU'ers who have been here for donkey's years, posting how disappointed they are that the Prez "bowed" to a dictator. It starts on Drudge, and spreads like a virus to DU.
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 11:32 PM
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15. The statistical significance of that is minimal at best
A fairer take is that it is basically unchanged.

But I don't think there's much merit in tracking these approval ratings polls anyway as a barometer of job performance. Come election time we can worry about this; in the meantime, we have a nation to rebuild.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 11:38 PM
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16. Very well said!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 11:40 PM
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17. As long as he has the backing of the American people, to hell with what ihateobama DUers say.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 12:14 AM
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19. Oh yeah????
Hell yeah!!!!!
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 12:34 AM
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20. THATS IT? just 3 points. hes so pathetic and hes letting us down
he really needs to pick up the pace and remember that he represents all progressives. Hes really becoming an embarrassment. we should all raise our voices in dissent so that he reads this board and knows how we feel. This way we can help guide him back towards the left since hes veered hard right. We must keep up the digital pressure. Every keystroke of dissent we type has an impact on his psyche.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:12 PM
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27. If you think Obama is "pathetic" at this point, you probably should
just commit suicide rather than suffer through the next 4 years.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 03:02 PM
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40. Pssst...I do believe he was kidding.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 03:09 PM
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41. correction, 8 years
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:16 PM
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28. BWAHAAHAHAAHAA!!!!
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 02:59 PM
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38. I hope that's sarcasm! n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:10 AM
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21. yeah but he better get off his butt and get something passed soon


Michelle is starting to pull away and if Sasha and Mali get a poll he will be in 4th.

I think the real reason he will get the dog is so that he won't be in last place
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 03:25 PM
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42. The dog and Michelle deserve second and first place, respectively,
then Barack will be third ! LOL
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Whalestoe Donating Member (928 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:54 AM
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22. I agree. People are proud of their President again!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 09:25 AM
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24. People are endorsing competence and intelligence, sensing that those virtues
Edited on Sun Apr-05-09 09:26 AM by saltpoint
are strong in this president and completely absent in the last president.


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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:42 PM
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29. There's no question
that the countries the Obamas are visiting are extremely responsive to our new President. No doubt some of it is a comparison to the most recent idiot-in-chief among heads of state. But I think even if we had been decently represented in the past 8 years, Barack would remain a most compelling leader. I know I'm proud of him and in awe of the daunting schedule.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:59 PM
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31. For some reason they don't have today's numbers up yet. n/t
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 03:00 PM
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39. Did they really?
I didn't even notice--I'm so glad I don't have to pay attention to tracking polls for a long time now that I haven't been checking.
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