President Obama in Prague, Czech Republic: "We have to insist - yes we can"

[Hope And Change]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7984168.stm

[lostnotforgotten]

1. Yes We Can - Make The Banksters Richer - Getting Tired Of Banksters Getting Rich At Our Expense

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[polichick]

3. Lol - that's the first thing I thought too...

God bless the President, he's inherited one hell of a mess ~ but this cover-up is not the way out.

[Hope And Change]

4. Didn`t say that.Please tell me where this video clip is about the financial crisis?

[lostnotforgotten]

7. Ask, And Ye Shall Recieve - See Link Below

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04032009/watch.html

[Hope And Change]

9. Sorry, but I won`t click on that link.Congratulations by the way for ruining this thread.I hope...

it will make you feel better.This thread was about Obama`s call for a nuclear-free world.You and some others came to another conclusion.Really sad that you had to make this thread about the financial crisis.

[lostnotforgotten]

10. So - Bill Moyers No Longer Rates For You - That Is Very Telling!

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[polichick]

21. We were responding to the use of "Yes, we can" - which has become "No, we can't"...

...when dealing with the bankers. Just an honest reaction to a phrase that's losing its punch.

[Hope And Change]

22. Again, this thread is not about the financial crisis.Why is this so difficult to understand?And by..

the way "lostnotforgotten" has been shitting all over this thread yet you defend this shit.But it doesn`t matter what I say now since this thread is pretty much ruined.And one of my posts got even deleted.But hey, the next time I see you start a thread about Obama`s plan on how to deal with the banks I will start shitting on your thread about how important it is that we get rid all of the nukes and take the "Yes-We-Can" slogan out of context and let`s see how you would react.

Congratulations again for ruining this thread.Let`s see if the Mods will delete this post too.

[polichick]

23. Good grief, what a whinefest. It's perfectly appropriate to comment...

...on the President's pick-and-choose use of the phrase "Yes, we can."

[Hope And Change]

24. Make that "it`s perfectly appropriate to shit on every thread..."

and take the "Yes-We-Can" slogan out of context.Happy now?

[polichick]

29. How was it taken out of context?? I was serious...

...when I said the first thing I thought was that we don't say "Yes, we can" when it comes to ousting the criminal bankers.

It's silly to try to dictate how a thread should progress ~ this is a message board, a place for people to air what's on their minds.

[Hope And Change]

36. I can`t dictate anything however it wouldn`t hurt if we show some kind of respect...

to each others threads - especially since this thread has nothing to do with the financial crisis let alone Obama`s handling of the banks.If every time, you saw a head title with the "Yes-We-Can" slogan think about how many threads you could shit on.Nothing more to add.This is my last reply to you.Go ahead and have the last word.

[polichick]

38. I'll let the last word reiterate the point of the original comments that so upset you...

If we can say "yes we can" to something as big as a nuclear free world, we can surely say "yes we can" to the bullying bankers in the states. It's a shame that suggesting such a thing so hurts your delicate sensibilities.

[HopeOverFear]

26. Who decided that that phrase is losing its punch? You?????

:eyes:

[polichick]

30. "Look," as the President always says, it's lame to say "yes we can" about some things...

...and "no we can't" when the bankers have you by the balls. If you don't get that, too bad ~ go shake your pom poms.

[HopeOverFear]

33. *takes deep breath...counts to ten* ...It's your opinion that it's lame

and that's all it is, an opinion. But to those 20,000 people standing there listening to him speak, it wasn't lame.

whew, there. I got through that without cussing anybody out.

[polichick]

34. You obviously missed the point - oh well.

[HopeOverFear]

35. oh no, dear, far from it. I completely got the point

You're nitpicking. Finding fault. THAT'S the point. But hey...everybody's got their something. Just keep your something the hell away from me.

oh, and btw.... *shakes poms poms up all in your face* You're on ignore now.

[polichick]

37. LOL - ignore is the favorite refuge of pom pom shakers here...

Funny how they can never do it without the help of that little button. :rofl:

[lostnotforgotten]

5. Hi polichick - Thanks - It Amazes Me That Supporters Zeal Blinds Some To Stark Reality

The whole financial mess, which is our biggest challenge, has been handled very, very poorly by the Obama administration.

If not quelled soon, it will dwarf all the good works that the Obama administration might have taken credit for in the future.

[natrat]

6. yes we can assist banks to steal trillions from our children-what a fraud

[Aloha Spirit]

8. This is Obama's most important speech to date. The historic quote:

"Such fatalism is a deadly adversary.
If we believe the spread of NW is inevitable, then in some way we are admitting to ourselves that the use of nuclear weapons is inevitable.
Just as we stood for freedom in the 20th century, we must stand together for the right for people everywhere to live free from fear in the 21st century.
And as the only nuclear power to have used nuclear weapon, the US has a moral responsibility to act.
We cannot succeed in this endeavor alone, but we can lead.
We can start it.
And so today I state clearly and with conviction America's commitment to seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons.
I'm not naive.
This goal will not be reach quickly, perhaps not in my lifetime.
It will take patience and persistence.
But now we too must ignore the voices that say we cannot change.
We must insist, yes we can."

[lostnotforgotten]

11. So - We Can Not Die From No Nuclear Fallout - Or We Can Die From A Failed Economy

I'll take fixing the economy first.

[Aloha Spirit]

16. I hope sometime later today or this week, you think about Obama's words today

and how they relate to US history
and how they determine our future.

[Hope And Change]

12. Thank you Aloha Spirit for posting this quote.I tried to include this quote in my OP but...

my editing period had already expired.

[Aloha Spirit]

15. You're welcome!

Jeez, who are these "Ignored" people and how did they reach reproductive age so quickly.

[HopeOverFear]

27. there are so many ignored people on this thread

and I had to add one more. *smh* it's like a fucking plague

[Clio the Leo]

13. One of the things that makes us better than the Freepers is that we are capable of complex thought..

..... we recognize that someone is not either all good or all bad. (with the obvious exception of Dick Cheney. ha!)

The President is not always going to do what we think he should. If we feel he's wrong about something, and we feel that calling him out on it will be productive, then that's what free speech is all about.

But there will be times when he'll do things that any rational human being would agree was important, significant and positive.

THIS was one of those times and I congratulate and support him on this important address.

*I* get it, I know YOU get Hope and Change and I think MOST of us get it.

Those who dont are much like the Freepers. They have their minds made up and aren't worth wasting any energy on. ;)

[Hope And Change]

14. I couldn`t agree more.Great post Clio the Leo!

[ClarkUSA]

17. What's funny about this latest poutrage: 4 banks have paid back their "bailout" loans w/more coming.

And of course, disruptor OP trolls like to ignore the facts that show the Obama/Geithner plan is working:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8319429&mesg_id=8320105

Suddenly, Bill Moyers is the new Krugman!

[Thrill]

18. Just like it was shown during the primaries. People on DU can be just as bad if not worse

than Freeperville.

[ClarkUSA]

19. Now the trolls worship at Bill Moyers' feet instead of Krugman's with a dash of Greenwald thrown in.

All the time ignoring the facts: four banks have paid back their loans. More are following suit and any economic indicators are looking up:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8319429&mesg_id=8320105

[Connie_Corleone]

20. Well this thread turned into a waste of time.

Sorry your thread got hijacked, Hope And Change.

[FrenchieCat]

25. Some folks are so full of shit until if they didn't get their pony,

no one else gets to enjoy themselves either.

[HopeOverFear]

28. YAY FOR TROLLS!!!! YOU DID IT!!!!

You hijacked a perfectly positive thread. You must be SO FUCKING proud of yourselves.

[FrenchieCat]

31. That's all they have!

Pathetic lot who want to believe that their political superiority
trumps anything anyone else thinks.

Considering, you'd think they'd have some bank to go and protest in front of!

But instead it looks like copying and pasting negativity about this President,
all over the Internet is their avenue to liberation!

[HopeOverFear]

32. it'd be WONDERFUL if they could take all that anger and actually

do something CONSTRUCTIVE WITH IT. But noooooo...because their lives are fucking miserable and lack joy they'd rather pass that on to others.