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ksoze Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:13 PM
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Freepers and guns: Getting a little scary out there lately on the fringes
The false meme that Obama will take guns away combined with the far right hate of the majorities choice, has created a frenzy of activity regarding guns. Some of the threads at freeperville are probably useful for law enforcement and are a sad display of those on the outer edges of reality. Scary stuff.

A sample post for your disgust:

"...Yeah, well, if people think the shortage is bad now, just wait until the shooting starts..."

My policy is to loot the enemies' dead bodies. In my mind this is common sense, but the media and specifically Hollywood cinema prtray this act as innoble.

I know the U.S. military had/has a prohibition on using captured enemy medical supplies (due to QA issues, I think), but was there ever any moral component or rule regarding relieving the enemy dead of usable ammo?

I ask solely for academic purposes, of course, but also because once the shooting starts, I don't want my neighbors to think I'm a dirtbag.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:15 PM
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1. The Republican Party: Vote for us, or we start shooting.
Somehow I don't think that's what the founding fathers had in mind for this country.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:17 PM
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2. Hey
didnt you know, only conservatives know exactly what the founding fathers intended.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:57 PM
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10. they may get confused and go after each other.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 11:45 PM
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22. One can only hope...
They are turning on each other now....
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:22 PM
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3. What is that about "Just wait until the shooting starts..."?
Where did they get the idea Obama is taking all their guns away?

These idiots never should have passed the registration process. Scary.
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ksoze Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:27 PM
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5. They quote increased gun sales and decreased supplies of ammo
and then determine it is in preparation for Obama taking their guns and their planned reaction.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:22 PM
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4. Pathetic
Losing hasn't exactly brought out the best in them. It's gotten to the point where more and more I just have to tune them out.
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Tripper11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:27 PM
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6. Tuning them our may be more dangerous then you think!
I understand where you're coming from. They're outright fucking loony tunes from the ground up, but if we ignore these nutjobs, it will be much more dangerous to all of us. As scary as it is, if we don't keep them in check it will get a helluva lot uglier out there.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:47 PM
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7. I agree. I heard a couple weeks ago where Wal-Mart and other such stores...
were cleaned out of ammo but would be rushing to stock more on the following Tuesday. I wondered what the big deal was, then saw it was due to the Repugs thinking Obama was going to take their "Blankies" away and they wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

So many of these people are ignorant and hotheads and believe only the worst. I see this in posts from people out West, Texas mainly. They aren't going to let anyone on their property and it isn't just those coming up from Mexico...it is also anyone connected with the government. Whacko...totally whacko. It reminds me of Waco.

Someone is going to be killed. Then, see how much hot air the hotheads have when they are sitting in prison.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:54 PM
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9. Umm, somebody has already been killed, have you been following the killings in Pittsburgh?
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 04:08 PM
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15. But what am I supposed to do about that?
How do I help keep them in check? They just get pissed at me because I'm not going to acquiesce to their bullshit. Next thing you know I'm the one they'll blow away.

I can't handle it any more. I'm not thinking the lefties have it all together on some things here either, with all the anti-Obama crap being spewed here.

Did anyone think this would all be fixed in just a few weeks? Sheesh.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 11:49 PM
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23. You are right...I believe many thought that things would
be fixed in a few weeks. It doesn't help that the O'leilly, Limpbaugh, Nazi boy and the wacko women from MN are instigating this irrational hatred and fear in this country. They are one step away from crossing the line to tyranny.

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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:53 PM
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8. Don't worry about waiting for the shooting to start --
I'm sure that your neighbors already think that you're a dirtbag.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:00 PM
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11. Internet blowhards
I'm taunting hell out of a couple on another board.
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Hellataz Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:01 PM
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12. I made this point the other day, but it was labeled as a "wedge issue"
But it wasn't just about it being an agenda issue, it was a concern for our country issue that too many of these gun nuts are all riled up with anger and hate and are stockpiling weapons and that's not going to end well.
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Flash Bazbo Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:40 PM
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13. They just take it for granted..
that their neighbors will recognize them as a legitimate governing authority and not a bunch of goons with guns.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:58 PM
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14. Then there's Rielly's
Gun Shop in Hooksett NH

Got to be "NoBama" HQ - I've driven by for 4 years now commuting (til the recent layoff...) and more signs went up after the election. And they've been doing a land-office business in guns 'n ammo, to the point that hunters (like the 2nd shift lead-man who told me) go unserved.
Another shooter that I worked with told me that the ranges are getting scary - lots of folks who half-know what they are doing, trying to instruct those who know less.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 04:11 PM
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16. "The false meme that Obama will take guns away"
I realize that Obama would never be stupid enough to try to do that, but there are absolutely state initiatives trying to restrict second amendment rights, and much support for those efforts here.

So say what you will, their claim is not entirely without merit.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 04:57 PM
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17. Birther Lawyer Orly Taitz Gathering Support At Machine Gun Convention

PatGund and others who post on DU about the goings-on of the Birthers have been criticized at a pretty regular clip by other DUers who do not understand why it is important to keep an eye on these people:


http://newmexicoindependent.com/24255/at-gun-show-conservatives-panic-about-obama


WEST POINT, Ky. — The sound of gunfire rumbles and echoes from half a mile away, long before anyone can see the entrance. The walk up to the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot starts on the country road outside the range, lined with cars from Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio and Georgia.


...

“We need your help,” says Carl Swensson, the group organizer who has put together a “citizen jury” to indict the president. “They can’t go across the country and arrest everybody, although they do have pretty good facilities in the FEMA camps,” he says, referring to a conspiracy theory about the government building holding centers for dissidents. In the early afternoon Swensson and Padgett were joined by Orly Taitz, an attorney who has filed multiple lawsuits challenging the president’s citizenship, and they got organizers to read an announcement about their effort over the loudspeakers. By the end of the day they have collected at least 400 signatures, and dozens more from retired military members who wanted to sign on to one of Taitz’s lawsuits.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 08:14 PM
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18. Malloy's going off on this shit right now
All the right wing tools like Glenn BecKKK encouraging this shit.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:54 PM
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19. "innoble". More freeper brilliance.
The term is ignoble, unless you are speaking Spanish, which this fool clearly was not.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 11:07 PM
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20. right wing extremism is dangerous
from the Council on Foreign Relations website:

Attacks committed by people who favor individual freedoms over governmental regulation are classified as right-wing domestic terrorism. Such extremists may be motivated by issues of race, such as the Ku Klux Klan, or other issues, such as opposition to abortion or immigration. According to the FBI, right-wing terrorists often take “racist and racial supremacy and embrace antigovernment, antiregulatory” platforms.

..

Attacks by left-wing or special-interest groups were the most common until the 1990s, when right-wing terrorists began staging more attacks aimed at civilians. The FBI says that the Oklahoma City bombing was carried out by far-right extremists who feared increased UN involvement in domestic policies, opposed stricter gun-control laws, and were enraged by “several confrontations between members of right-wing groups and law enforcement officers at Waco, Texas, and Ruby Ridge, Idaho.” A right-wing extremist, Eric Robert Rudolph, was also responsible for the 1996 Olympics bombing in Atlanta that killed two and injured more than one hundred. The decline of right-wing terrorist attacks since 2001 could be attributed to extremists’ anger shifting toward foreign entities and away from the U.S. government, the Los Angeles Times reported in March 2008...

right-wing extremists are still considered the most dangerous to the United States, says the SPLC. Right-wing extremist attacks are planned to target people, and if successfully carried out, intend to kill many civilians. Ecoterrorist attacks, on the other hand, aim to sabotage the infrastructure of businesses and corporations that endanger the earth; the groups do not aim to kill massive amounts of people.

The FBI says right-wing extremists have the potential to carry out the most deadly domestic attacks since they have a tendency to amass weapons and explosives and have “a propensity for violence.” Increasingly, right-wing terrorism threats come from what the FBI calls the “lone wolf” terrorist in the FBI Strategic Plan 2004-2009. Such an individual is a fringe member of a formal extremist group but acts alone instead of carrying out a group-planned attack. Despite limited funding, solo attacks can be deadly and are difficult to detect.

http://www.cfr.org/publication/9236/
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 11:36 PM
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21. lol @ internet warrior
The average person with a gun would down an idiot like that in no time.
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