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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 05:01 PM
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Krugman on Geithner
Frontline interview:

What would the Fed have been looking at that would have worried them? ...

Part of its traditional role is lender of last resort, which you're always afraid of. The Fed was essentially created as a firebreak against banking crises. One bank fails, and that starts a run on the next bank, and that bank fails, and you know what happened in the 1930s, but also in fact was a regular feature of the U.S. economy.

Basically the panic of 1907, (investment banker and financier) J.P. Morgan stepped into the rescue. And people said: "Hey, there won't always be J.P. Morgan to do this. We probably should have an official institution that does it." And they had trouble with that role until the New Deal added a bunch of extra firebreaks. That is the Fed's central role and always has been. Fed and LTCM, 1998 -- the collapse of liquidity because you have a financial panic is what the Fed is there to stop.

The Fed had, by the time of Lehman, understood that there are a lot of things that aren't -- commercial banks aren't the Fed's traditional responsibility -- that can nonetheless have the same systemic effects as a bank failure. And in fact, when people ask me, "What can I read to understand the nature of this crisis?," I actually point to a (then-head of the New York Fed Timothy) Geithner speech from June 2008, before Lehman, about the parallel banking system and how it has become vulnerable to the modern equivalent of bank runs. And that's the source of our extreme fragility financially right now.

Presumably people at the Fed, presumably Geithner as well, were saying: "This is effectively maybe an investment bank, not a commercial bank. But it's got short-term debt and illiquid assets and CDS, credit default swaps, and a lot of counterparty risk. And if this thing goes under, (there) could be cascading effects through the system." That would be the view you'd expect them to have. You'd expect them to be very afraid of letting an institution like that fail.

Tell me what you know about Tim Geithner. ...

Geithner is a Larry Summers protégé from Treasury. He worked his way up during the Summers years at Treasury and did a lot of international stuff, very involved with the Asian financial crisis of the late '90s, which is, in some respects, a dry run for what we're having now, universally regarded. I spent time in meetings with him. Extremely smart, extremely aware of the stuff, very discreet, controlled, a good central banker, even though that's not where he comes from originally. But he's got the central banker ability to talk knowledgeably about a subject without actually saying something that is going to cause the Dow to move by 500 points, and the kind of person that you really need.

I don't know if he has the political skills, but the closest parallel, he reminds me of Bob Rubin, even though it's a different career path. But he comes across that way -- very calm, intellectual guy with a good grasp of the markets.

And of course New York Fed, you have to understand -- in normal times, when you're just doing ordinary monetary policy, all the action is in Washington. When you're in this kind of financial thing, the New York Fed becomes, in some ways, a co-equal partner of the Board of Governors in Washington. So he's been in the middle of the maelstrom all along. ...

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The interview was posted February 2009, but it appears to be from November 2008.






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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 05:30 PM
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1. No comment? n/t
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 06:58 PM
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9. You Got to Give It Some Time, Man...
That's a long interview requiring some thoughtful reading.

It's great -- had never seen that before. If you want it in front of more eyesballs, you might post the video clip in the Political Video forum.

It's amazing how many people love and admire Krugman (as I do), but think Geithner and Bernanke are corrupt hacks. I think we're lucky to have both of them right now -- a year from now, it may be clear that they were the ones who saved the world.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 05:34 PM
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2. Not much Krugman discussion lately on DU. Gee, I wonder why?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 06:07 PM
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4. Partially because he's been in Spain and not posting much
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 06:12 PM
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6. Actually, there have been numerous posts
yesterday and today

This one was quite interesting.

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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 06:14 PM
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7. I agree. That one was great.
His most entertaining stuff is the occasional Econ 101 for wing-nuts entry.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 06:07 PM
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3. All these guys respect each other
Nobody questions Geithner or Summer's intellect and knowledge.

As with most rarefied intellectual fields, the disagreements are narrow with broad agreement on 99% of things.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 06:15 PM
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8. Here is what catches my attention
...when people ask me, "What can I read to understand the nature of this crisis?," I actually point to a (then-head of the New York Fed Timothy) Geithner speech from June 2008...he's got the central banker ability to talk knowledgeably about a subject without actually saying something that is going to cause the Dow to move by 500 points, and the kind of person that you really need....he comes across that way -- very calm, intellectual guy with a good grasp of the markets.


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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 06:09 PM
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5. Hmm. So Krugman likes Geithner. Very interesting and great to know.
Thanks ProSense. :hi:
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 07:15 PM
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10. IOW, Geithner might be a very smart pick for Treasury Sec. according to Krugman.
How about that, folks?
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