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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:13 PM
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Rovian Turd Blossom Goes On FauxNews - Calls Vice President Biden a "Liar".
Edited on Thu Apr-09-09 10:19 PM by jefferson_dem
Note: This is a FauxNews report but we'll take the bloody bastards at their word.

Rove Calls Biden 'Liar' After VP Boasts of Scolding Bush
Aides to former President George W. Bush are challenging the veracity of Vice President Joe Biden's claim this week of having privately castigated Bush.
By Bill Sammon

FOXNews.com

Thursday, April 09, 2009

Republican strategist Karl Rove called Vice President Biden a "liar" on Thursday, dramatically escalating a feud between Biden and aides to former President George W. Bush over Biden's claims to have rebuked Bush in private meetings.

"I hate to say this, but he's a serial exaggerator," Rove told FOX News. "If I was being unkind I would say liar. But it is a habit he ought to drop."

Rove added: "You should not exaggerate and lie like this when you are the Vice President of the United States."

Biden's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment, although Biden spokesman Jay Carney told Fox on Wednesday: "The vice president stands by his remarks."

Carney was referring to two controversial assertions by Biden, the latest coming Tuesday during an interview on CNN.

"I remember President Bush saying to me one time in the Oval Office," Biden began, "'Well, Joe,' he said, 'I'm a leader.' And I said: 'Mr. President, turn and around look behind you. No one is following.'"

The exchange is purely "fictional," said Rove, who was Bush's top political adviser in the White House.

"It didn't happen," Rove, a FOX News contributor and former Bush adviser, told Megyn Kelly in an interview taped for "On The Record." "It's his imagination; it's a made-up, fictional world.

<SNIP>

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/09/rove-calls-biden-liar-bush-aides-challenge-vps-boasts/
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:14 PM
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1. Takes one to.......
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:15 PM
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2. Why isn't he in jail?
Hmmmmm?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:28 AM
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10. We Have To "Move Forward,"
"There are bigger fish to fry"

etc., etc.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:20 PM
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3. Biden's ripped Bush publicly, so I'm sure he's done it privately. From 5/08:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/15/1027733.aspx

Biden rips Bush
Posted: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:17 PM by Domenico Montanaro
Filed Under: White House, Joe Biden
From NBC's Domenico Montanaro


Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE), chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee absolutely tore into President George W. Bush for his comments from Israel, which appeared to take a swipe at Obama.

Bush said this morning, “Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement."

An exasperated Biden skewered Bush over that in a conference call with reporters, calling the comments “pure politics,” “blatant,” “beneath the presidency,” “truly disgraceful,” “outrageous,” “disturbing,” “ridiculous hypocrisy” and “long-distance Swiftboating.” He even said Bush “oughta get a life.”

“For this president to go on the attack against Barack Obama,” Biden said. “It cannot go unanswered.” {Possible veep audition?} :)

Coupling Bush’s comments with McCain’s assertion that it’s clear who Hamas wants to be president, Biden said he sees “an ugly pattern emerging.”

He said the president should “get in touch with his administration.”

“I assume he’s going to fire his Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense,” Biden said. “They want engagement of Iran.”

He went on. “This is the kind of political rhetoric which continues to masquerade as policy,” Biden said. “All they have is masquerades.”

And… “This is why we’re in the situation we’re in,” he said, as he criticized Bush for “demonizing” Democrats.

Bush “should try to figure out how to dig us out of the God awful hole this president has gotten us into.” He added that when he travels abroad, “I don’t criticize the president” --no matter how much they might disagree on various facets of foreign policy. In fact, he said he has defended the president when abroad.

Biden also sharply criticized Bush’s -- and John McCain’s, for that matter -- Mideast policy, or in McCain’s case lack thereof, Biden said. He called Bush’s policy an “abject failure,” “truly delusional” and “backwards.”

“The president’s saber rattling has been the most self-defeating policy imaginable … spurs instability in the Middle East … increase in price of oil … plays into the hands of those Iranian leaders he rails against.

“Since when, since when has talking removed no from the American vocabulary.

More: “This is the same president, who talks about appeasement, the same one who asks me to get on a plane and talk to Qaddafi,” Biden said. “The same president who made a deal with Qaddafi. He writes letters, ‘Dear Mr. Chairman’ to Kim Jong Il.

“He oughta get a life here … Under George W. Bush’s watch, Iran, not freedom has been on the march … They’re a lot closer to the bomb… He calls Maliki our guy … Whose policy produced that? Whose watch was that? … Iran’s proxy Hezbollah is on the ascendancy. Don’t take my word for it, look at NIE … Afghanistan, Pakistan, Al Qaeda is stronger now.

“We should take zero backseat to this pres, talking about appeasement. … Under him, Israel is less safe.”

Biden also admitted to initially calling Bush’s comments “bull----.”

“I reacted viscerally,” he said. “But the essence of what I said was accurate. I should have said malarkey.”
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:22 PM
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4. Shut the fuck up you CRIMINAL...nt
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:36 PM
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5.  "You should not exaggerate and lie like this when you are the Vice President of the United States."
`The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight."

"I have not suggested there`s a connection between Iraq and 9/11."

"The suppliers network that provided that, headed by Mr. A.Q. Khan, has been shut down."

"We`ve never let up on Osama bin Laden from day one."

"Gwen, the Kerry record on taxes is one basically of voting for a large number of tax increases -- 98 times in the United States Senate."

"There's overwhelming evidence there was a connection between al Qaeda and the Iraqi government. I am very confident that there was an established relationship there."

"We believe Saddam has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."

"Saddam is actively pursuing nuclear weapons at this time."

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us."

"I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven't had now for over three years."

"We will, in fact, be greeted as liberators."



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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:41 PM
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7. great list. you can do it without breaking a sweat nt
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:40 PM
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6. He's the biggest liar there is. n/t
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:24 AM
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8. MSNBC just showed this clip
and the anchor prefaced it with "Karl Rove kept quiet at Cheney and the White House's previous back and forths"....um, he has a fucking job on Fox news! He definitely has NOT been "keeping quiet". And while they said that Biden has been known to exaggerate, all the people who they had on to comment said about Rove was "he's not exactly known for straight talk". Talk about an understatement. And the segment ended with the guy from Time saying "I'm sure Karl Rove would like nothing more for this to continue so he can go on Fox regularly and talk about it"...again....he's a paid pundit on Fox news, he's already on there regularly.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:28 PM
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11. this is the utter shit that the Reshitlicking'cans Party has become
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:26 AM
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9. LMAOOO "Rovian Turd Blossom"
OMG, ummm thanks, I'll try reading the article when I stop laughing so hard!!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 09:34 PM
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12. I don't know if you guys saw this from June 2004:


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/6185043/what_next/print

last Biden quote on the page.

So, why wasn't Rove in a tizzy then?

(thanks to DUer
csziggy for providing that link in another thread)
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 09:40 PM
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13. Great Find!
I thoroughly enjoyed this comment as well:

Biden: I was in the Oval Office the other day, and the president asked me what I would do about resignations. I said, "Look, Mr. President, would I keep Rumsfeld? Absolutely not." And I turned to Vice President Cheney, who was there, and I said, "Mr. Vice President, I wouldn't keep you if it weren't constitutionally required." I turned back to the president and said, "Mr. President, Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld are bright guys, really patriotic, but they've been dead wrong on every major piece of advice they've given you. That's why I'd get rid of them, Mr. President -- not just Abu Ghraib." They said nothing. Just sat like big old bullfrogs on a log and looked at me.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 09:53 PM
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15. Now you guys know why I am such a huge Biden fan.
He always comes up with these gems.

I also loved it when bsh was talking about the surge in Iraq, Biden got on the Senate floor and said bsh was about to drive us off a cliff :P
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 09:44 PM
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14. it's been around, but it's a classic
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:10 PM
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17. Piraro is brilliant :)
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 10:20 AM
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18. i love Plato's little lip snarl! n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:05 PM
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16. what a whining little cry baby little karl is.....nobody's buying your lies
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