I just emailed the President of ASU - told him "fuck you"- here is his link:

[old mark]

He has stated President Obama may speak there, but he will not be awarded an honorary degree. I told President Crow he is anti-American and stated
"Fuck you". The page with his contact is here

http://president.asu.edu/contact

Please let Mr. Crow know how you feel about his decision, as well as his recent decision to ignore MLK day.

Thanks.

mark

[Renew Deal]

1. That's mature.

[old mark]

3. Thanks, but I doubt it.

Mr Crow is an asshole, and he should be told so in no uncertain terms.

Besides, I am old enough to be as immature as I please.

mark

[Renew Deal]

4. Also, the MLK thing was satire

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8334058

A joke!

[Bobbieo]

23. I'm certain he always speaks well of you!

[AZ Criminal JD]

27. You are proving that

[tabasco]

35. Oh fuck off.

Who are you, the internet maturity police?

[AZ Criminal JD]

38. He made the statement. I was just being agreeable.

[dbackjon]

2. Done

As an Arizona Resident, I told he I was appalled at his disrespect to the POTUS

[rasputin1952]

5. Barnicle, on Hardball, said they are "reconsidering" the situation...

to me, that says that a degree will be conferred.

Personally, I've always found "Honorary Degrees" a bit of a farce. I know a few Ph D's, have one in my own family, and they worked like hell to get the degree...I see no reason to hand them out. That's just me though, I don't have a heavy handed degree, just an AAS. If I ever do get a PhD, or Masters for that matter, I'm going to have to work my butt off to get it...:hi:

[scrappydo]

12. Good for you....do not give up the dream....

I am working on my doctorate degree in education....it was been my life's dream to hold a doctorate degree and even in my old age, I am going to catch that star.

[Cha]

20. I agree and President Obama

has earned his own. But, why invite the Prez to speak at Commencement and then say he doesn't have a body of work worthy of the traditional honorary degree? It almost sounds like stupid recon tricks.

[rasputin1952]

31. It does show a remarkable lack of insight on the part of the

Directors.

Obama has crossed many hurdles, and his past is filled with challenges he has overcome. As a Law professor alone, he has passed many of what those on the Board of Directors has done. Add Senator and President...he leaves them light years behind.

Personally, I think it's because he's a D, and the people of AZ did not overwhelmingly vote for him. I lived in AZ for several years, change comes very hard for them. Now I am in NE, and in some cases here, it's almost like the 19th Century...:eyes:

[Top Cat]

66. That's exactly what it is.....

[mkultra]

25. in this case, hes not being reasonable but rather spiteful.

considering the others they have handed these out to, this is an awfully interesting time to pull back on the throttle.

[rasputin1952]

32. I think they are being foolish...

but it's the students that will make a difference. When the speech is aired, and the president is cheered on, it is the Board thaqt will look like fools...:hi:

[Hippo_Tron]

33. Yea but an honorary degree isn't a real degree

Nobody is going to give me for a job because of my "honorary degree". It's just a symbolic thing and I don't see how it diminishes the work done by people who earn real degrees.

[rasputin1952]

36. Like I said, it's just me...

I certainly don't want people to agree w/me 100%.

I do recall Bill Cosby getting an Honorary Doctrate years ago, and some people called him Dr. Cosby. I haven't heard that in a long time, but there are times when I have to wonder.

Neil deGrasse Tyson has a PhD in astrophysics, as does my cousin, I'll call both of them Dr. if that is how they want to be addressed...but I'd rather call them Neil and Terry...:)

[mkultra]

42. cosby has a doctorate in Education

[rasputin1952]

47. My bad, he earned that...

he also has several Honorary Doctrates...He certainly earne the Ed D...:blush:

[Hippo_Tron]

44. I think the only person who calls themself Dr because of their honorary degree is Stephen Colbert

And by that I mean, Stephen Colbert's character, not the actual Stephen Colbert.

[a la izquierda]

49. Here, here.

I've been working my tail off on a PhD for 5 years. I hate honorary degrees....but I think what ASU is doing is completely ridiculous.

[Dora]

6. I don't like Crow myself, but I think your idea is lame.

Just sayin'.

[GentryDixon]

7. I already did.

Only nicer. I told him it was discrimination or Republican politics, neither being acceptable.

Got the obligatory email back. Too many emails, yadda, yadda.

[liberalmuse]

8. Done. And I was not very nice.

Dear Jim Crow,

President Obama graduated at the top of his class in Harvard Law School, where he became the first African American President of the Harvard Law Review, and you do not believe he has enough credentials to receive an honorary degree from ASU? You've got to be kidding me? Is this some kind of sick, racist joke? He earned a REAL HARVARD LAW DEGREE and managed to get legitimately elected to the US Senate, and then, 4 short years later, to the highest office in the land, and some low-end University from the diverse (haha) state of Arizona is refusing to honor our President with a degree? If that's the case, I wouldn't wipe my ass with an "honorary" degree from ASU. It sounds like Arizona quite possibly may be the Mississippi of the Southwest. You, Mr. Crow, aren't even close to being the accomplished human being President Obama is. As a matter of fact, you appear to be a small-minded, self-important, pompous ass.

[PADemD]

48. Great Letter!

[Undercurrent]

9. Done

My email:

President Crow,

The President of the United States was generous with his time, and very gracious to agree to give the commencement address at your university. In return Arizona State University made an extremely poor decision to disrespect not only the man, but the office he holds by refusing to grant him an honorary degree.

Shame on you!

------

[marybourg]

29. Very nicely done. nt.

[AtomicKitten]

10. Done.

I called, emailed, and faxed them.

Thanks for posting this.

[rufus dog]

11. As a graduate of ASU

Thanks, tear into the asshole.

Their actions do not represent what is best for the students, the alumni, or the University. It was a selfish political move and he deserves every obscene email.

[Still Sensible]

17. As a 1979 graduate of ASU, I'm mad as hell

They have been calling me a couple times a week asking me to donate, as I have done in the past, to the College of Liberal Arts. I can't wait to get this week's call so I can give them an earful to pass on to the lunatics in charge. Yes, I understand the committees are separate, but this is incredibly idiotic. What they don't seem to understand is that President Obama's appearance at their commencement is (or should be) a source of pride and prestige. Instead, by their shortsighted--or outright republican--political position, they look like fools.

[ChazII]

24. Great idea -

they having been calling me for a donation to the College of Ed (1980 grad). This would be a great chance to make a personal message.

[FrenchieCat]

13. I spoke to my daughter about this earlier this morning.

She just sent me a copy of the email that she wrote and sent to the Arizona State University President!

Dear Mr. Crow,

It was quite interesting to find out that your institution, Arizona State University, found it fit just a couple of years ago to bestow an Honorary Degree to Wu Qidi, vice minister of education of the People's Republic of China. I am dismayed, however, that you have determined that the Current President of the United States doesn't qualify for the same ASU honor.

How I wish that President Obama had been invited to speak at our school instead of yours! I am a senior at Harvard College graduating this June.

That said, my husband (an '07 Harvard Alumni) and I have decided that our future children will never, ever consider attending your institution. In addition, we will both make sure to burst out in uncontrollable laughter anytime we hear mention of your name, or the name of the institution you represent.

You sir, are a true embarrassment to this country.

God Bless America, and God Bless the President of the United States.

Sincerely,

("that's my baby!" :bounce: )

[Cha]

Now that's a letter that would make

someone who had made a very bad(crazy) decision..sit up and take notice!

[Laelth]

55. Very, very nice. n/t

:dem:

-Laelth

[biopowertoday]

14. I think you make Democrats look vile and stupid with those comments.

[otohara]

30. Cringe Worthy Behavior

reminiscent of morans

[rvablue]

15. Mark, FYI, looks like ASU is already backpeddling and eating Crow

not literally, but figuratively.

There's a post in GD about it.

[Mz Pip]

16. Classy

I'm sure your articulate voice of concern will change Crow's mind. :sarcasm:

[Honeycombe8]

18. I'm sure your e-mail was looked upon as thoughtful discourse, and given due consideration.

LOL. Seriously...if you want to be taken seriously, esp. by an academic institution, you have to give more thought to your communications with them while trying to make a point.

[mitchum]

22. True, but this was directed at ASU...

not an academic institution.
Party!!!

[nolabear]

19. Mine read a little less FU and more "For Shame."

"ASU's decision not to offer the President of the US an honorary degree was at once both stunningly disrespectful and ridiculously self-aggrandizing. You bring shame on your university and your students."

That's what I said there.

But here I'll just comment on how incredible it is to see so much shite rise to the surface.

[NEDem]

21. Pathetic

.

[mkultra]

26. It takes all kinds. and all should respond in their kind

This jackass deserves some insulting.

[whistler162]

28. So you told the Presiden t of ASU you where a

idiot who never graduated 2nd grade!

Whatever!

[mkultra]

39. the concept that vulgarity is only used by the illiterate

or ignorant is naive.

[mitchum]

52. Yes, I have always said that vulgarity is a privilege of the articulate

I have lots of words in my vocabulary and only some of them are obscene.

[Binka]

43. "You where a idiot"

Is English your second language?

[mitchum]

53. However, I don't think he misspelled either "fuck" or "you"

Not to be snarky or anything, but...

[old mark]

67. I get a lot of practice around here spelling both, thanks. nt

[jillan]

34. This is nothing, he is also going to raise tuition calling it "An economic recovery" hike.

Such a jerk. Being from Az, I am beyond embarrassed.

I will be glad to email him, maybe with not as colorful language, but I have plenty to say.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

37. ignore MILK day? racist

[tinrobot]

40. Crow? Perhaps he needs to change his first name to "Jim"

[classysassy]

41. Arizona state univ.

the decision of the schools president will effect the recruitment of black players for the basketball and football teams.Hello out there,you football,baseball and basketball players come to the U of A,Tucson is a better place to live and very progressive,screw you Asu.

[eridani]

45. I left out the F bomb

I find it unbelievable that Arizona State University saw fit to bestow an honorary degree on Wu Qidi, vice minister of education of the People's Republic of China.

And the current President of the United States is supposedly "less experienced" than that? On what planet? And do the unicorns bite?

[old mark]

46. Thanks for your comments. nt

[George II]

50. I'm sure that caused him to change his mind!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[old mark]

57. I assume the good Dr Crow never even saw my missive.

I have several PhD's in my immediate family, and I know from personal experience they all need a hearty "fuck you" from time to time....

Obama owes me for this.


mark

[ms liberty]

51. And your argument was so persuasive, he reconsidered his decision immediately?

I agree with your position, 100%...but your message itself, not so much.

[old mark]

58. You are certainly allowed to disagree, which is why I posted the link -

so others more sensitive than I could express their displeasure at ASU's poor choice.

Thanks for your intererst.

mark

[azmouse]

54. It seems as though ASU is reconsidering the whole honorary diploma thingy...

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/president/articles/2009/04/10/20090410obama0410asu.html#comments

[annabanana]

56. Latest- Scholorship to be established in his name instead. .

(CNN nust now)
I'm thinking this is far more valuable than an honorary degree.. Perhaps they have been shamed into this action...

[old mark]

59. They damn well should be shamed into doing something positive .

Notre Dame and the Pope next....


mark

[George II]

65. I seriously doubt your "fuck you" turned the tide!!!

.....and what do Notre Dame or the Pope have to do with this?

[mkultra]

60. [e-mail]

i think that's his email address. Carpet bomb his box.

[prolesunited]

61. I'm sure he'll be impressed.

Legitimate points are lost in such stupidity.

[mkultra]

63. well do tell

show us all what you sent. Im guessing you are one of the old guys in the box.

[spoony]

62. Ignore MLK day? Wasn't that a satire piece

lampooning their treatment of Obama?

[onenote]

68. yes.

[George II]

64. "ASU Renaming Scholarship Program After Obama"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/11/arizona-state-to-start-ba_n_185880.html