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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 07:09 AM
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In a strange way the "tea party" thing is Obama's "Revolutionary" ideas at work
So they are gonna have themselves a protest. We have been doing that for years-usually depicted in the press as the ragged edges "with nothing better to do". One of the tenets of the American left is a more full involvement by the people in their government and now the other side is applying their only two real assets (organization and money) to the same goal.

Two things you never hear on the MSM (especially not on Fox News) are:
1. Call your Representative and Senator
2. Come on down and volunteer

The DC establishment (both parties) love the distance it has been able to put between themselves and the public. They don't want the moaning and crying from the peon class, they want business to continue as usual that being money buys access (read:influence). Now all of a sudden we have ourselves a braying public looking into the normal course of their government's operations.

We saw this blow up in the faces of the Republicans on immigration. The very last thing anyone expected or wanted from the normally docile right (they vote but they don't march) was actual attention to this issue let alone demanded results. Both sides, by they way, loved the old situation: Repubs had a faceless voiceless "bad guy" and the Dems milked it for not appearing to demean human beings (sells with the soccer moms) and a huge majority in Latino votes. No matter what you think of the Minutemen they actually did something and the forces that goaded them into it were left standing there with no second act, no solution-they hadn't that that far ahead.

Transparency, accountability, and discussion of every day governmental affairs are the gears turning the Obama swing. This is being attacked as "socialism" and "tyranny" by the right who expect the norm-that people will just sit and yell at the TV.... apparently they are getting off the couch now.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 07:33 AM
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1. Makes sense, and I'm guessing your OP will be controversial.

Shades of gray are so confusing to those who prefer black and white.....
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 07:37 AM
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2. TEA Party probably includes many who voted for Obama, e.g. 9% Rep & 52% Ind. Obama represents them
Edited on Wed Apr-15-09 07:42 AM by jody
also.

Without their vote, Obama wouldn't be president.

ON EDIT ADD:
President, National Exit Poll, Vote by Party ID
Total            Obama     McCain     Other/No Answer
Democrat (39%) 89% 10% 1%
Republican (32%) 9% 90% 1%
Independent (29%) 52% 44% 4%
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 08:00 AM
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4. Doubt it.
And if there are even a few the second they show up and see the irrational and meanness of the crowd, they are bound to leave in shame and quickly.

Can't quite imagine that ANYONE who voted for Obama would go to a rally with freepers, Alan Keyes, Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck.

Defies reason.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 08:06 AM
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5. I suspect some of the 52% independent voters who voted for Obama will attend.
I'm intrigued, did you "see the irrational and meanness of the crowd" at any of the TEA Parties that have already been held?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 07:54 AM
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3. IMO Obama can lose some of his 52% support among independent voters and 9% among Republican voters
if he doesn't handle the TEA Party movement correctly.

I don't believe just ignoring the movement or worst disparaging it is politically wise for Obama.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 08:13 AM
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6. The tea party "grassroots" protest is astroturf generated by New Gingrich's PAC and other GOP organs
Edited on Wed Apr-15-09 08:13 AM by ClarkUSA
Republicans are so desperate to get some of that populist "grassroots" energy that Democrats seem to generate at will that
they've created a Potemkin village of a "movement" that will be a faint memory a week from now.


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