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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:07 PM
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The Presidency and the DOW
Throughout the month of February, as the Dow Jones Industrial Average plummeted to close to 6400, conservative commentators across the country cackled that "the market is showing no confidence in Obama's policies".

In the last six weeks, up to this minute, the DJIA has gone up 1700 points... or... more than 25%.

the largest six-week DJIA percentage increase in history.


Suddenly... conservatives are no longer tying the DJIA to the President.


Amazing how that works, isn't it?



But let's stick to their original supposition - that the DJIA is a reflection of the President's performance:

DJIA on January 20, 1993 (Clinton's inauguration): 3425

DJIA on January 20, 2001 (Bush's inauguration): 10535

DJIA on January 20, 2009 (Obama's inauguration): 7925

DJIA at this very second: 8130



To summarize:

The DJIA went up by more than 300% during Clinton's term. In other words, every dollar you had in the market when Clinton was sworn in was worth $3 when he left.

The DJIA went down by more than 20% during Bush's term. In other words, every dollar you had in the market when Bush was sworn in was worth less than $0.80 when he left.

As you can see, in Obama's 3 short months, even in a horrible economy, you're back to turning a profit again with dollars that were in when Obama was sworn in.


The right always talks about how the "invisible hand of the market" will tell you how things really are...it cannot be "spun".

For once, I'm going to agree with them.


And I'll bet their foreclosed houses that the DJIA will be higher when Obama leaves office than when he came in. Much higher.


Like Harry Truman famously said, "If you want to live like a Republican, vote for a Democrat"

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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:20 PM
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1. +1
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:25 PM
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2. Historically, the dow grows under a Democratic Presidency
And shrinks on Republican. IMO: Obama's effect on the market is only now being felt.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:28 PM
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3. Ha, I'm just looking at the same thing
I can't find the precise value of the Dow during the swearing in (markets were closed for Inauguration speech) but it was definitely less than 8,150.
I'm totally entertained reading all these pieces how the market doesn't like Obama.

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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:32 PM
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4. The DJIA closed at 7925 on Inauguration day....
Obama's first day at work, officially, was the next day.

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cwcwmack Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:34 PM
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5. mehhh...
I wouldn't tie the DJIA to anything good... it's just a giant ponzi scheme designed to assign arbitrary values to valueless companies or entities. It's a step below baseball card collecting.

I've posted here before and I'll post again...

A stock should be worth NO MORE than the net assets of the company + the value of future dividend payments.

If anything... I think Obama collapsed to the banks and the robber barons. If the DJIA were at 5000 I'd be more prone to believe that the rats had fled the ship...
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:37 PM
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6. You're missing the point... the CONSERVATIVES tried to tie it to Obama...
...and it is backfiring on them.

Just like everything else they've tried.
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cwcwmack Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:38 PM
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7. that's true... they're pathetic. nt
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