Do you think Lynndie England's Penalty was too harsh?

[rufus dog]

Poll question: Do you think Lynndie England's Penalty was too harsh?

[mmonk]

1. Your options suggest two different things.

No, it wasn't too harsh and yes she did take the fall for bad command.

[rufus dog]

5. Fair enough

So is your opinion that she should was correctly prosecuted AND those in her command should have been prosecuted?

[Adsos Letter]

2. No, her sentence was not too harsh...

now, let's apply the same rigor up the chain of command...to the very top...and then her sentence will also be just.

[Bobbieo]

4. Agree!

[rufus dog]

7. O.K.

So she got about three years and was one of a handful prosecuted. After the four to six month process for her and her peers then the next logical step would be to get the next level of command?

[ColbertWatcher]

10. I pick this one. n/t

[Occam Bandage]

3. No, it wasn't too harsh, and yes, she took the fall for others.

If there's an implicit comparison with the CIA, well, I don't think England had the DOJ explicitly tell her that leashing naked prisoners was lawful.

[hlthe2b]

8. Yes... Both apply...

[PBS Poll-435]

6. Other - DoD training failed

You don't put people who can't run a FratHouse/Soroity House in charge of an Iraqi jail. Even for just a shift or two.

[HereSince1628]

11. "Don't put people who can't run a FratHouse...in charge..."

Unfortunately, that criticism is really best aimed at the 2000 SCOTUS appointment of POTUS.

[Enthusiast]

12. You said it! nt

[Sebastian Doyle]

20. FratHouse? I doubt Lyndie England could run an OUThouse properly.

Chimpy too, for that matter. God knows he's failed at everything else.

[saltpoint]

9. As Adsos Letter indicates, there were a lot of folks higher up in the Bush

administration who went unpunished for the violence they visited upon innocent people.

Letting the lower-end folks take tha hit for those higher-ups is unfair if those higher-us emerge unscathed.

The President of the United States is the Commander-in-Chief, and bears final responsibility for what is done on his watch. If he did not know about these debasements and about the torturing, why did he not know, and if he did, why are a very few lower-downs taking the hit?

We do not know every single detail of these doings but we certainly know the names of the people who were in charge. And it's a long way down the list to get to Lynndie England.

[Thothmes]

21. Agree whole heartedly

This would not have happened if LBJ would have been tried along side of Calley and Medina. JMO.

[ejpoeta]

13. i think it's outrageous that the lower folks get prosecuted

while the folks that ok'ed it and tried to make a pretzel out of the constitution to justify it get off scott free!! i am not saying that the ones who carried it out shouldn't get prosecuted. what i am saying is that it's BULLSHIT that the big wigs are not.

[HelenWheels]

14. Her punishment meaningless if those above go unpunished

Punishing her without addressing those above is pointless. Sending her to prison won't deter others of her rank.

[90-percent]

15. example

Damn good example of America's two tiered justice system. Our record breaking incarceration rate seems to apply only to "the little people".

Our lawmakers smother us with draconian laws about bullshit and arrest and imprison us at the highest rate in the civilized world, but these laws apparently don't apply WHAT SO EVER to the lawmakers themselves.

THEY make the laws. WE do the time!

Can anybody tell me what core principals our country is based on THAT WE STILL PRACTICE?

Thanks.

-90% jimmy

[Phx_Dem]

16. What was her penalty?

[tkmorris]

19. She ended up getting 3 years I believe

[rufus dog]

17. kick n/t

[tkmorris]

18. Both

She deserved every bit of it, though she also took the fall for others. The real problem is that her actions were deemed to be due to "a few bad apples" and the investigations ended there, rather than examining the environment that allowed such to take place. The officially sanctioned torture methods were certainly not better than anything England was accused of so there is huge dose of hypocrisy in saying she deserved punishments while others do not.

[Danger Mouse]

22. Both.

:P

[AZBlue]

23. No, but her superiors should have gotten equal or more.