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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 02:05 PM
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Why doesn't anyone challenge Repubs. when they say waterboarding WORKED?
Edited on Fri Apr-17-09 02:16 PM by jenmito
Joe Scarborough said, this morning, that it's a fact that waterboarding KSM worked, providing valuable information which saved thousands of lives. That has been proven FALSE yet nobody challenged him on it. Nobody ever challenges ANYONE when they say waterboarding worked on KSM. He (Khalid Shaek Mohammad) lied about 90% of the claims he made:

As for K.S.M. himself, who (as Jane Mayer writes) was waterboarded, reportedly hung for hours on end from his wrists, beaten, and subjected to other agonies for weeks, Bush said he provided “many details of other plots to kill innocent Americans.” K.S.M. was certainly knowledgeable. It would be surprising if he gave up nothing of value. But according to a former senior C.I.A. official, who read all the interrogation reports on K.S.M., “90 percent of it was total fucking bullshit.” A former Pentagon analyst adds: “K.S.M. produced no actionable intelligence. He was trying to tell us how stupid we were.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2008/12/torture200812


Same with Abu Zubaida:

"In the end, though, not a single significant plot was foiled as a result of Abu Zubaida's tortured confessions, according to former senior government officials who closely followed the interrogations. Nearly all of the leads attained through the harsh measures quickly evaporated, while most of the useful information from Abu Zubaida -- chiefly names of al-Qaeda members and associates -- was obtained before waterboarding was introduced, they said."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/28/AR2009032802066.html?hpid=topnews
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 02:14 PM
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1. Enough military sources have condemened it. Barry McCaffrey on MSNBC did vociferously. nt
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 02:22 PM
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2. Good to hear
But CBS reported that the Bushies had said that waterboarding had produced information on other plots with no further comment.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 02:26 PM
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4. But on a positive note, who believes the BUSHIES anymore?!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 04:54 PM
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8. CBS didn't question their assertions, sadly
And off it went on the airwaves, unchallenged.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 07:15 PM
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9. Typical.
Sad but typical.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 02:23 PM
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3. Exactly. Even MCCAIN condemned it! n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 02:54 PM
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5. Pat Buchanan is on MSNBC claiming that waterboarded saved lives and foiled plots
Edited on Fri Apr-17-09 02:55 PM by jenmito
like the Library Tower "plot" and the "plot" to fly passenger planes over the U.S. and blow them up. He agreed with Hayden. :eyes:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 03:19 PM
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6. He dodged the draft and has never left Chevy Chase. nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 03:22 PM
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7. That's because he loves America so much he never wanted to leave it.
:sarcasm:
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