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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:15 PM
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Poll question: Who is responsible for the torture prosecutions:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:16 PM
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1. none of the above.
Dept. of Justice.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 07:52 PM
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8. Agreed. DOJ has primary responsibility.
But Congress could appoint a special prosecutor.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 08:59 PM
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13. ditto
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 06:53 PM
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25. That's under the Executive.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:20 PM
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2. The justice department could start this Monday.
All on their own. But I voted for all of the above anyway. My hands are bloody and they won't wash clean.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:35 PM
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3. How about starting with a legitimate investigation
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:36 PM
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4. I voted for the US citizens. If we do not demand prosecution,
no one in government will tke the time to. Silence is complicity.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:15 PM
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5. We, the American people, need to demand the destruction of the criminal organization called the CIA
It was founded by Hitler funding treasonous bastards, and has NEVER served a legitimate purpose. Anyone who says otherwise is a fucking liar.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 07:53 PM
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9. JFK proposed doing that. He did not succeed. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 08:29 PM
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11. JFK's mistake was that he tried to do it on his own.
The CIA already hated him because he vetoed Operation Northwoods (the 1962 version of "9-11") and they blamed him for the failure of the Bay of Pigs operation in Cuba (attempt to overthrow the Castro regime)

If President Kennedy had leveled with the American people (as Eisenhower tried to do on his way out) it would have been much harder for the CIA to get away with what they did in Dallas.

There are millions of Americans who know the truth about the CIA now, and what they TRULY represent. JFK didn't have that kind of support. President Obama will, if he does the right thing.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 08:57 PM
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12. I am very fond of President Obama.
You may be right, but the cost will be high if you are wrong.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 09:06 PM
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15. And what will the cost be if we do nothing?
Isn't 50 years of these bastards enough?

I believe there's a reason that CIA thug Larry Johnson has been at the root of much of the anti-Obama hatred since the beginning of the 2008 primaries. He saw how hugely popular Obama was, and how people connected with him. Comparisons were made to JFK and RFK. Leaders who could have ended the path to destruction that Flowbee Johnson and his fellow CIA thug criminals have kept us on all these years. They probably played a HUGE role in all of this teabagging horseshit, and the hateful messages that were displayed at many of these events.

If President Obama thinks he's out there on his own, he's likely to not pursue justice and put an end to these criminals. But if he knows the people got his back, and that we demand our country back, then we can, in his own words, "make him do it".
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 09:10 PM
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17. I agree that the cost doing nothing is high.
I would certainly support the President is he made an effort to dismantle the CIA, but he will have to lead the charge, and I think it will be risky for him.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 05:07 PM
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23. Yep, this is a mess that needs cooperation from many sources
to A. clean it up and B. make sure it never happens again.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:30 PM
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6. Preferably all of them get on the same page
The President could order the DOJ to, and I'd be fine with that. Might be a little risky going it alone, but worth it. If the economy gets better, why would people get mad about torturers being prosecuted?

More people should write to put the pressure on.

Therefore, Congress would respond to the people and also be a player.

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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 07:48 PM
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7. That is where my thoughts are on it also.. it takes all hands on deck
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 08:05 PM
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10. All of the above
because those who accept pay to perform sworn duties fail to do so.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 08:59 PM
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14. Either DOJ or Congress
Congress is better suited politically.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 09:07 PM
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16. The President is; that's the law.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 09:22 PM
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20. What law is that?
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 09:46 PM
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21. The one that makes him Chief Executive,
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 09:47 PM by elleng
giving him the authority to tell the Attorney General how to use his/her discretion to prosecute or not to prosecute certain matters. Thats the Constitution.

U.S. Constitution - Article 2 Section 1

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 09:55 PM
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22. So you think it's the sole responsibility...
of the President to appoint a Special Prosecutor. How narrow of a scope would you confine the investigation to? Do you think that a Congressional Investigation would produce more or less information than something like the Walsh Iran/Contra prosecution?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 09:12 PM
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18. Has the Justice Department ever investigated the Justice Department
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 09:12 PM by rucky
of a previous administration?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 09:22 PM
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19. all hands on deck...
it took a lot of power to get away with the shit that's been done, and it's going to take a lot of power to undo it.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 06:50 PM
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24. Other- DOJ.
The others can lean on them, but ultimately the decision is on them.
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