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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:55 AM
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Thrice-married Ghouliani declares war on gay marriage.


RUDY RIPS GOV'S BID FOR GAY NUPS
NY Post ^ | April 20, 2009 | Frederick U. Dicker

RUDY GIULIANI is declaring war on gay marriage -- vowing to use his strong opposition of it against the Democrats if he runs for governor next year.

The former mayor, in an extended interview with The Post, also predicted that Gov. Paterson's high-profile effort to legalize gay marriage would anger many New Yorkers and spark a revolt that could help sweep Republicans into office in 2010.

"This will create a grass-roots movement. This is the kind of issue that, in many ways, is somewhat beyond politics," said Giuliani, a two-term mayor who unsuccessfully sought the GOP presidential nomination last year.

"I think gay marriage will obviously be an issue for any Republican next year because Republicans are either in favor of the position I'm in favor of, civil unions, or in many cases Republicans don't even favor civil unions," he continued.

Giuliani, who is slated to address a Republican fund-raising gala in Albany tonight in what is widely described as further proof of his interest in running for governor, said he's committed to the traditional definition of marriage.

"Marriage, I believe, both traditionally and legally, has always been between a man and a woman and should remain between a man and woman," said Giuliani, who has been married three times.

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http://www.nypost.com/seven/04202009/news/columnists/rudy_rips_govs_bid_for_gay_nups_165238.htm
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:58 AM
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1. how about, who I marry is none of his fucking business...!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:12 AM
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2. I thought I heard Rudy and Judy were on the rocks.
He could be heading to #4. Maybe the quote should read: "Marriage, I believe, both traditionally and legally, has always been between a man and a woman and should remain between a man and woman or another woman or another woman or another woman or another woman," said Giuliani, who has been married three times.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:15 AM
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3. Oftentimes, people who can't stay married have issues of denial about their
own orientation. Maybe Rudi's protesting a bit too much?

He wants to be governor of NY??

Good grief--the little turd just might pull it off.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:19 AM
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4. What a despicable hypocrit....
There has to be a special karmic hell for people that would sell out his friends for political expediency.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:56 AM
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5. He agress with Chairman Kaine and Pres Obama
That is also their position. So Rudy is worse than them, I guess because of his divorce? That is strecthing it. Rudy and Barack agree on this issue. To pretend otherwise is vulgar.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:43 AM
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10. When has Obama campaigned AGAINST gay marriage?
He's put his personal beliefs out there, but he's also said if a state does it, that's their right.

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:14 AM
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13. Obama and Kaine didn't run on a promise to ban gay marriage.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:15 AM
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14. Fail. (nt)
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 10:25 AM
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19. Yep...what you said.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:57 AM
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6. Well, it's pretty clear what this particular guy is worried about. :)
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 07:34 AM
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7. Dont you just love a hypocrite? NT
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:37 AM
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8. "Marriage, I believe, has always been between a man and his cousin"
Edited on Mon Apr-20-09 08:38 AM by SoxFan
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:42 AM
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9. Isn't it funny when Republicans grow a moral backbone the second they seek a higher office?
Giuliani and Romney are no different. Two fairly liberal Republicans a decade ago, they quickly ran to the right when it became politically necessary.

How can we trust politicians who don't even trust their own political ideas?
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:45 AM
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11. Otherwise said: Guliani wants to run in 2012 (or 2010 for governor?)
(Either that or he thinks that gay marriage is somehow responsible for his failed marriages?)
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:13 AM
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12. And if he runs on a platform of "traditional marriage", he'll get curbstomped.
Rudy was popular in New York because he tended to be more liberal on social issues--but like this he's just another wingnut.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:15 AM
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15. I despise him as much as rush, beck, hannity or the rest. What
a hate filled joke. This man gave less than a shit about his own wife or wives or his children. How in the hell can he pass judgment or even speak about marriage? What a turd.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:59 AM
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16. STFU, Rudy. We don't give a rat's a$$ what you think.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 10:15 AM
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17. What a freaking HYPOCRITE! He lived with a gay couple after he dumped his second wife!
On 9/11, Rudy the Rat was living with a gay couple. Guiliani had announced at a press conference that he was divorcing Donna Hanover (that was how she found out about it). For the sake of continuity for their kids, Hanover and the kids stayed in Gracie Mansion, and Rudy moved in with these two gay friends, who cooked for him and took care of him during the dark days surrounding 9/11. He called one of the men, "Mom."

And now he would deny them the chance to marry?

And, of course, he's a hypocrite for "defending traditional marriage" while running around on all his wives like a scoundrel.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 10:23 AM
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18. Didn't he live with a gay couple, when his second marriage broke up
when he announced his divorce to the media before telling wife?
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 10:29 AM
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20. Yep, when Donna Hanover kicked him out of Gracie Mansion. (nt)
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:04 AM
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21. Obviously gay marriage has ruined Ghouliani's three marriages. No wonder he is against it. That's
it correct? All his wives keep running off to marry their lesbian lovers or he is forced to marry his gay lover. Gay marriage needs to be stopped NOW! :sarcasm:
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:15 AM
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22. What always strikes me about opponents of gay marriage
is that they're unable to state what harm it would do.

They use very generalised arguments like "we're defending traditional marriage" or "it always has been this way", rather than explaining what harm would result from allowing gay couples to get married.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:31 PM
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23. Giuliani, the only candidate whose kids refused to campaign for him?
That Giuliani is talking about the sanctity of marriage??????

:rofl:
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