"This Imaginative Crowd": Obama's response to Republican critics (and press corps)

[mix]

"Even within this imaginative crowd, I think you would be hard-pressed to paint a scenario in which U.S. interests would be damaged as a consequence of us having a more constructive relationship with Venezuela."

Nice derisive tone by our President.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/20/722329/-Obama-mocks-GOP-criticism

[Skittles]

1. ?

how is that derisive?

[mix]

2. That doesn't seem derisive to you?

It's subtle, but the term "imaginative crowd" seems to me to ridicule the Republicans'/MSM reading of Chavez' strength and significance.

[Skittles]

7. I think it is factual

[omega minimo]

11. That's how GD: P rolls

B-)

[dalaigh lllama]

14. I would say more dismissive than derisive

Obama just has a much classier way of saying, "Whatever."

[Skittles]

20. I love Obama's speaking style

when you've got people arguing whether it's divisive, dismissive, or "whatever", it's a good thing I say. Remember the typical response to bush? Like, WTF is he trying to say??? :D

[dalaigh lllama]

21. It's been a long time since we could

use "nuance" and "President" in the same sentence. :-)

[Patsy Stone]

3. He said it to the press

They are writers. You know, imaginative types.

:eyes:

[mix]

4. it's a clean quote and i'm glad he's mocking the right's absurd thinking n/t

[Patsy Stone]

5. "This imaginative crowd"

referred to the crowd there: the press. If you and Kos want to believe he stuck it to the GOP, go ahead; it doesn't cost me anything. However, if he was being derisive to anyone in the immediate sense it was the press. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[mix]

6. i think your reading is correct, actually

I had not understood the full context, yet the press is certainly complicit in parroting the Republican line with regards to Obama's trip south, call it a derisive conflation...look for the Kennedy-Krushchev meme coming soon...

[blogslut]

16. heehee

Yes it did. :hi:

"It's unlikely that as a consequence of me shaking hands or having a polite conversation with Mr. Chavez that we are endangering the strategic interests of the United States," Obama told reporters. "I don't think anybody can find any evidence that that would do so. Even within this imaginative crowd, I think you would be hard-pressed to paint a scenario in which U.S. interests would be damaged as a consequence of us having a more constructive relationship with Venezuela."

Zap!

[Kalyke]

15. But the press shouldn't be "imaginative" - the should deal with facts.

But, given the lies many of them spread daily during the age of media consolidation, I guess maybe they are "imaginative." :crazy:

And, dahlink: "The last mosquito that bit me had to book into the Betty Ford Clinic."

Love Ab Fab.

[Patsy Stone]

19. "Bloody bastard asthmatic cab driver!"

Cheers, sweetie! :toast:

[LooseWilly]

8. I approve.

I'm not sure who the imaginative crowd is... it might be me for all I know... but the notion of constructive relations with Venezuela being a threat to US interests is only imaginable if you are willing to define US interests as "oil company interests" and then go on to define "constructive relations" as "interfering with projects in the works for oil companies to take Venezuelan Oil".

If those two conditionals aren't met... then one would have to be extremely imaginative to paint a damaging scenario. (Let's start with Space Aliens...)

[Hutzpa]

9. Ditto

whatelse is there to say.

:thumbsup:

[Hello_Kitty]

10. Obama: Suck it, morans. eom

[WinkyDink]

12. Heeheehee. I like his style.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

13. This imaginative crowd writes about inane things like teleprompter usage

and the like and he's addressing that square on. I like it.

[Arkana]

17. Hahaha.

"Imaginative"...no, Mr. President--imaginative implies that they have brains.

Try "deluded", "clinically retarded", or "drinking the Fox Noise Kool-Aid".

[ensho]

18. I heard that and enjoyed his wit

nt