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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 12:47 PM
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Is President Obama Tough Enough?
Testicular Politics: Obama and the Big Dogs
By William Greider
April 22, 2009

The big dogs of banking and finance are playing a rough game of bump-and-run with our president, trying to knock him off balance and demonstrate their dominance. The best names in Wall Street--Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase--pumped out happy talk about quarterly earnings, then announced that they intend to give back the government's money (more than $50 billion, if counted honestly). The crisis, they announce, is over for them. They want to be free of official meddling in their private affairs. The arrogance is breathtaking, even for Wall Street bankers.

For the last couple of weeks, they have poked the kid in the chest and mocked his economic advisors with condescending gestures. Jamie Dimon of the Morgan bank handed Treasury Secretary Geithner a fake check for $25 billion. They threw complicating wrenches into the government's financial rescue plan. Their essential message, crudely colloquial, was intended for Barack Obama : "You don't have the balls to take charge of us."

The question is: Are they right? Obama seems cowed by their bluster. He certainly looks reluctant to take them on in a public way or refute their version of reality. This president wants to govern through public-spirited cooperation. The financial titans play hardball in return. I say "seems" because we do not yet know about Obama and how he will resolve this mess. The administration has been stalling action on the troubled banks, as if it believes in its own wishful forecasts about an early recovery for the economy. The bankers trumped him by announcing, hey, things are already better for us. So back off.

The bankers think they have the president cornered. His rescue plan cannot possibly succeed without much more money--hundreds of billions more--that Congress will be extremely reluctant to provide (Obama hasn't yet had the nerve to ask for it). The bankers' offer to return their welfare checks is a cute gesture, but a bluff. They know Obama's government is committed to save them, whatever it costs. As usual, the big dogs want to have it both ways--take the public's money but promise nothing in return.

He acts as though the old order must be restored with public money, but without forceful government direction. He can call their bluff if he has the courage--shut down a couple of big banks, take control of the system--and the public would cheer. During the campaign, Obama demonstrated he is a great teacher--his political vision changed the country. But we do not yet know if he is a confident political leader willing to use his power against formidable adversaries in order to get his way. Every potential rival is now taking his measure. Weakness would doom him.

Please read the complete article at:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090504/greider?rel=hp_picks
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 12:52 PM
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1. We'll have to see.
And yes, I think Obama has the guts- and the smarts.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 12:52 PM
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2. 1 paragraph too many
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 12:53 PM
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3. I'm a bit disturbed about our foreign policy standards
We're perfectly willing to deal with countries who have abysmal human rights records as long as our "big dogs" get to profit from them.

Iraq, a country we currently occupy, is torturing and executing men and women for the crime of being allegedly gay (whether they are or not is irrelevant) and yet neither Obama, nor our Secretary of State has mentioned the 128 people being hanged and shot, nor the more recent gruesome accounts of cell phone videos of gay men having their asses glued shut and poisoned to death.

Iraq is hokey dokey okay as long as we stand a chance of squeezing some oil out of it. We have higher priorities than human rights. We have more important domestic business. What. Ever.

Personally, I am starting to experience deep disappointment, when what I needed was "hope" combined with a little moral clarity and a pair of brass ones.


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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 01:00 PM
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4. To the writer
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 01:01 PM by Hutzpa
If you're thinking Obama is a weak President then you have not been paying attention, this
sounds like a hit piece to me, do your fuckin homework before you go spewing thrash.


Obama is weak...Ha! :rofl:
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 01:54 PM
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5. Greider, et al, talk like it's easy to fix if tougher. If admin were to be bolder, possible that
more banks go under, more unemployment and instability, more expensive remedy and the already too scary number and world wide insolvency might be worse. Despite everyone's tough talk. Too much transparnecy at this point might be paralyzing.

Greider was successful in less global and more simple times, when telling the truth wouldn't mean a 'no' to all of Obama's budget and a public already panicky, going into a lot less hopeful funk than they are now. I don't think answers are at all clear, or that there is only one way. I remember Obama talking surgically do no (more) harm. Might be easier to change behavior, laws and regulate, as we're doing, and having something to bounce back with. Starting from scrtch, now, not a good idea.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 05:41 PM
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6. blah
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:06 PM
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8. blah blah.
I have only put two DUers on ignore in five years, and they were pizza'd long ago for good reason. This OP has nothing constructive to offer this forum...ever. How long can I hold out?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:10 PM
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9. He put me on ignore today for pointing that out to him...along with 3-4 others.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:31 PM
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17. Me too! I advised him about the ignore no-peaking policy.
:toast:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:00 PM
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7. Another day, another hit piece.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:13 PM
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10. Ever post any of your own words?
:eyes:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:16 PM
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11. Do you have an actual life other than digging up negative stories about Obama?
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:27 PM
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13. that's a rhetorical question... right?
:rofl:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:29 PM
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14. Why yes. Yes it is.
:P and :hi:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:31 PM
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15. the bitter tears of the OP are like nectar to me...
:hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:26 PM
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:31 PM
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16. Ok.. addressing the post instead of the poster
Where has it been said that "likewise, we are told it would be wrong to punish the financial malefactors or look too closely into how they engineered the gross fraud and false valuations that destroyed trillions of dollars in American wealth."? I have heard no such thing.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:39 PM
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18. Oh, and BTW
Obama has called them on their bluff and told them to keep the money. So far, he seems to be playing his own game along with them. Is he tough enough? I don't know, but I've learned there's more than meets the eye with President Obama.
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