"Releasing the CIA memos makes us less safe because terrorists know our interrogation tactics"

[phleshdef]

Um no dipshits, because we don't use those tactics anymore. President Obama said that we have to follow the law now.

I've yet to see anyone make this point in the media. If anyone has, I missed it. But this fact just came to me and I had to share.

[AllentownJake]

1. Logically

You have to agree that these tactics work. If it takes 183 times to get actionable intelligence out of somebody than it isn't a very productive technique. It is also hardly the suitcase nuke is about to go off technique that its been advertised as either.

[global1]

2. Check Out This Terror Timeline - If You Read It Carefully - Those Techniques Have Been On The Web ..

for a long time. If anyone wanted to know what we did - it's been out there almost since they started doing this after 9/11.

Here's the link: http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=torture,_rendition,_and_other_abuses_against_captives_in_iraq,_afghanistan,_and_elsewhere

The only difference is that they all come together on these newly released memos and actually confirm what was already out there.

[Supersedeas]

3. Even if McCain had one, we couldn't use them -- the entire premise of enhanced interrogation

was based on avoiding GENEVA. The Supreme Court Ruled in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld that GENEVA does apply completely, despite YOO/BYBEE/BRADBURY/HAYNES argument that the President during war time can conduct a War however he pleases. Wrong, the law is now established. Geneva Applies.

We would have to formally rescind our participation in GENEVA to continue those practices.

[AtomicKitten]

4. Actually, the worst thing is that we engaged in a policy of torture. n/t

[annabanana]

6. We made a crime into policy. . . . n/t

[Waiting For Everyman]

5. I agree with you, OP.

[phleshdef]

7. I'm not sure if some got what I meant in the OP.

I'm saying that there is no reason to question whether or not the release of the memoes is a security issue, because we aren't using the same practices now anyway.